Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

[6-1.SUCKIT.]

Just like you, they shouldn't be here then.

I'm starting to think that maybe you shouldn't be here. Maybe you should take a little break. You seem to take this stuff way too seriously and you seem to be looking for things that just aren't there. It's just a message-board, you need to chill out.

and big game chokes in each of those past 3 years, you never seem to get around to mentioning that part.

How many big games has he choked? He lost to USF and Pitt when his starting QB got nicked up and went down. That offense is built completely around Pat White. If he goes down that offense isn't going to score points, period.

funny coming from a guy with that handle

What's wrong with the handle? It immediately implies that I'm a Michigan fan (which I am obviously) and I don't really see it as being of the 4th grade/South Park variety like, I don't know, Dick Rod.

Listen, you show up out of the blue insulting OSU and pimping RR like he's the second coming then get all pissy when some one calls your bullshit. In typical scUM arrogance you think we are bashing him because he's a scUM coach now, we're just jealous. If you look back through it most here didn't think much of him before he jumped ship for AA and were quite happy with the hire. You think he's your savior, we think he's a clown. Time will tell.

As for you I say you are nothing but a troll with that handle and showing up to talk shit after you get a new coach but never hide nor hair of you before that. I know BKB has vouched for you but we all make mistakes.

I came here insulting OSU? Really? Where? I'd like to know what exactly you are talking about.

You seem to think way too highly of yourself, and the vast majority your posts seem to be nothing more than profanity laced garbage.

 

[jwinslow]

How many big games has he choked? He lost to USF and Pitt when his starting QB got nicked up and went down. That offense is built completely around Pat White. If he goes down that offense isn't going to score points, period.

They were stymied before those injuries, especially vs USF. White going down actually gave WVU a fighting chance, since the backup could actually throw the ball occasionally.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I'm starting to think that maybe you shouldn't be here. Maybe you should take a little break. You seem to take this stuff way too seriously and you seem to be looking for things that just aren't there. It's just a message-board, you need to chill out.

Again, the irony of a scUM fan on an OSU board insulting me for taking things too seriously is indeed comical.

How many big games has he choked?

4 in the past 3 years. I'll type slower next time if you need me to.

What's wrong with the handle? It immediately implies that I'm a Michigan fan (which I am obviously) and I don't really see it as being of the 4th grade/South Park variety like, I don't know, Dick Rod.

and if I had some sick desire to visit a scUM board I'm sure they'd welcome me with open arms if I made a handle that insulted scUM.

I came here insulting OSU? Really? Where? I'd like to know what exactly you are talking about.

You seem to think way too highly of yourself, and the vast majority your posts seem to be nothing more than profanity laced garbage.

Your handle is typical for a flamer/troll. The fact we are even having this discussion seems to cement it.

 

[Lockup]

Wow. Stay classy man. Is there really any need for that kind of language?Seriously. Ever think there might be some young Buckeye fans on here?

Yep

Fuck Michigan!

 

[Lockup]

How many big games has he choked? He lost to USF and Pitt when his starting QB got nicked up and went down. That offense is built completely around Pat White. If he goes down that offense isn't going to score points, period.

Your right he is brillant. He designs an offense around 1 player that no other QB can handle well enough to beat even lowly Pitt. By all means I hope he installs that same offense at scUM.

 

[cincibuck]

Is this a private fight, or can anyone jump in?
Just some thoughts: IF he doesn't get Terrell, what does Dick Wad do? Mallet can move better than most people think he can and he has a cannon. But make a spread QB out of him? I don't think so.

If he does get Terrell and he does install the spread first year does Mallet walk? I think so. Kid has too much talent to ride the pine.

If Schilling can't keep DEs out of the back field, (Gholston damn near joined the Michigan huddle) how's he going to be any help in a spread? UM may need a whole new recruiting concept for their o line.

No one has said a thing about Ron English. How long will he stay in Michigan when he didn't even get a second look?

I for one think too much has been made out of the Oregon blowout. 1. Dennis Dixon can make anyone look silly. 2. I suspect the team was hyped up by the App State debacle and hyped up teams can fall apart quickly if things don't break their way. They got down by two scores early, they lost their QB, they couldn't run Hart the way they wanted to because of the score and then they just quit... First time I ever saw a Michigan team quit... and all of this took place before half time, where they might have been able to make some adjustments.

I DO think it proved that if you have a Dennis Dixon/Vince Young kind of QB you can make fools out of most teams. Likewise, if you can't recruit in depth for both sides of the ball, like WVU, Louisville, Oregon, Texas Tech then you better find a way to put a ton of points on the board. Dick Wad had to put a ton of points on the board to play against the big boys on his schedule. BUT if you loose your Dennis Dixon/Vince Young guy you're fucked because now you have to go back to the 'old' offense. Not an easy transition and you don't have the big hosses up front anymore (remember my comment about the kind of linemen you might recruit?) to make a drop back system work.

And just to keep the OSU side of things in mind, does this mean that Henton gets more snaps in practice? As the 04/05 seasons showed, it takes a while to put the spread into your play book and you get very fuzzy results when you try and run a system based on two very different QB styles.

 

[Lockup]

The bigger question to me is what does he do about that D. He can put in the spread or whatever O he wants but he better fix that D.

 

[3yardsandacloud]

Urban Meyer completely out-coached and out-classed Jim Tressel in the National Championship game last year.

I'm starting to think that maybe you shouldn't be here. Maybe you should take a little break. You seem to take this stuff way too seriously and you seem to be looking for things that just aren't there. It's just a message-board, you need to chill out.

I came here insulting OSU? Really? Where? I'd like to know what exactly you are talking about.

First, a voucher from BKB gives you a small amount of leeway at BuckeyePlanet. The rest is up to you. You must EARN it and trust me, you are NOT off to a good start. I understand that rivals can have a hard time getting off on the right foot, but this is a Buckeye board ... it is YOU that will need to figure a way to fit in around here. To even suggest that Jax shouldn't be here is the height of hubris. Fit in and I'm sure you'll make some long term friends. Try and get others to fit your mold and ... well you won't last. Ask BKB about his first week or two at BP ... and he's a Buckeye fan.

Secondly, how exactly should we take the comment "out-classed Jim Tressel"? The NCG last season was a lot of things, but the one thing it was NOT was a demonstration of superior "class" by Meyer. Are you getting an idea of what I'm talking about? Now stop with the advice for others and worry about yourself.

 

[Steve19]

First, a voucher from BKB gives you a small amount of leeway at BuckeyePlanet. The rest is up to you. You must EARN it and trust me, you are NOT off to a good start. I understand that rivals can have a hard time getting off on the right foot, but this is a Buckeye board ... it is YOU that will need to figure a way to fit in around here. To even suggest that Jax shouldn't be here is the height of hubris. Fit in and I'm sure you'll make some long term friends. Try and get others to fit your mold and ... well you won't last. Ask BKB about his first week or two at BP ... and he's a Buckeye fan.

Secondly, how exactly should we take the comment "out-classed Jim Tressel"? The NCG last season was a lot of things, but the one thing it was NOT was a demonstration of superior "class" by Meyer. Are you getting an idea of what I'm talking about? Now stop with the advice for others and worry about yourself.

What he said.

 

[sandgk]

Looks like there has been a lot of misinformation in this thread.
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As far as Mallett goes, he ran the spread in high school at Texas High. The kid looked more comfortable this year when Michigan had him in the gun and had 4 WR sets. He looked very awkward under-center and muffed, I don't know, 11 or 12 snaps on the year.
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Actually that isn't really true is it? Here, let's play a game of find the citation, the one which says Mallett ran the spread in High School. A citation from a High School Football reporter in Texas should suffice. Alternatively, a citation from the lead-up to Mallett's commit to TSUN, from say a worthwhile source - like GBW.

So here are my two cites fitting those simple criteria - intending to show that Mallett was not in a spread offense.

Texas High School Reporting on Mallett being the new #1 going into the 2006 HS football season - Dallas Morning News

Ryan Mallett, the next big thing among Texas high school quarterbacks, might be the most self-effacing person in Texarkana.
Seriously.
Take his assessment when asked to compare himself and Highland Park's Matthew Stafford, this year's top-ranked quarterback in Texas and the nation. Stafford and Highland Park beat Mallett and his Texas High team in the first round of the Class 4A Division I playoffs last fall.
"He can run a little bit," Mallett said. "I can't run at all."

Had to include that as even the previously touted RR project Shaun King was more than capable of running.

Mallett started for Texas High as a sophomore, guiding his team to the state quarterfinals. He was even better as a junior, throwing for 2,219 yards and 21 touchdowns. He said his improvement was noticeable running Texas High's pro-style offense.

Now, pop quiz - how many folks see the descriptive "pro-style" and leap to the conclusion that this is surely the spread? Not me.

As for GBW - here was their run-down of Mallett and his style at the time of his commit to TSUN.

Another positive is the sophisticated offensive system Mallett plays in at his high school. The aerial attack he pilots looks as if it would be successful against some small college teams. He has experience throwing an array of screen passes, deep routes and mid range passes, and does a great deal of his work out of the shotgun.
Mallett also does a lot of the little things right. One often overlooked but important facet of a quarterback?s job is selling play-action. Mallett does an excellent job with ball fakes. He is also good at improvising and making difficult throws from contorted positions. His escapablity is good for a youngster his size.

That reference to the shotgun is the closest to convergence with recent revisionism from TSUN fans that Mallett ran the spread in HS. Notably, the "great deal of his work" does not agree with previous assertions by some that he was exclusively in the shotgun. Moreover the sophisticated offensive system bears no "spread" moniker. Perhaps this is because GBW wouldn't recognize the spread till ASU hit them between the eyes with it - doubt that though. More likely explanation is that Mallett was never really running the spread. Instead he was running what the TExas High School football reporter characterizes as a pro-style offense.

So, can we officially declare dead on this board the touted long experience that Mallett has in the spread? It seems that claim, oft-repeated on these boards in one form or another by some TSUN posters, is nothing more than wishful revisionism.

 

[BayBuck]

Actually that isn't really true is it? Here, let's play a game of find the citation, the one which says Mallett ran the spread in High School. A citation from a High School Football reporter in Texas should suffice. Alternatively, a citation from the lead-up to Mallett's commit to TSUN, from say a worthwhile source - like GBW.

So here are my two cites fitting those simple criteria - intending to show that Mallett was not in a spread offense.

Texas High School Reporting on Mallett being the new #1 going into the 2006 HS football season - Dallas Morning News


Had to include that as even the previously touted RR project Shaun King was more than capable of running.

Now, pop quiz - how many folks see the descriptive "pro-style" and leap to the conclusion that this is surely the spread? Not me.

As for GBW - here was their run-down of Mallett and his style at the time of his commit to TSUN.

That reference to the shotgun is the closest to convergence with recent revisionism from TSUN fans that Mallett ran the spread in HS. Notably, the "great deal of his work" does not agree with previous assertions by some that he was exclusively in the shotgun. Moreover the sophisticated offensive system bears no "spread" moniker. Perhaps this is because GBW wouldn't recognize the spread till ASU hit them between the eyes with it - doubt that though. More likely explanation is that Mallett was never really running the spread. Instead he was running what the TExas High School football reporter characterizes as a pro-style offense.

So, can we officially declare dead on this board the touted long experience that Mallett has in the spread? It seems that claim, oft-repeated on these boards in one form or another by some TSUN posters, is nothing more than wishful revisionism.

Just since I don't see the distinction as apparent in some of your posts such as this one, the "spread" offense is not the same as the "spread option" offense that is so popular these days with guys like RRod and Meyer. The basic spread (with 3-5 WRs) does not necessarily require QB running ability, and it can go hand-in-hand with the shotgun.

 

[BB73]

Is this a private fight, or can anyone jump in?
Just some thoughts: IF he doesn't get Terrell, what does Dick Wad do?

[osw] Dick Wad? How old are you, fourth grade? You seem to take this stuff way too seriously and you seem to be looking for things that just aren't there. It's just a message-board, you need to chill out.
[/osw]

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

[osw] Dick Wad? How old are you, fourth grade? You seem to take this stuff way too seriously and you seem to be looking for things that just aren't there. It's just a message-board, you need to chill out.
[/osw]

hmmmm

There's supposedly a connection between osw and bkb, and you do a great osw impression.

So who are you?

 

[osubartender23]

Well if arguably the best coach in the country says that he learned his offense from Rich Rodriguez shouldn't that say something about Rodriguez' abilities?

What that tells me is that Rodriguez is a choker. Isnt someone who is supposedly so superior and innovative supposed to win the big games?

 

[Lockup]

Well if arguably the best coach in the country says that he learned his offense from Rich Rodriguez shouldn't that say something about Rodriguez' abilities?

Your a little quick to be put the crown of best coach in the country on Urban aren't you?

Pete Carroll and Jim Tressel might have a beef with that. I just saying since...you know...they have been to 3 NC games and all.