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Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

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A question for any Michigan fans frequenting this board:
If Richrod doesn't deliver an eye popping season this time around the block, with his seat already being somewhat warm do you foresee the school administration using the major violation card in his contract to send him packing?
 
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winslow, I think FSU pulled his offer after he chose Michigan the first time. After he didn't get in, I don't think the went back after him.


red, if he doesn't have an "eye popping" season, say another disaster and no bowl game, I don't think they'll need to use the violations as a reason to get rid of him. Now, if the new AD just wants him gone, they could use the violations no matter what type of season they have. JMO. Personally, I think we hit the 8 win mark and he sticks around.
 
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red, if he doesn't have an "eye popping" season, say another disaster and no bowl game, I don't think they'll need to use the violations as a reason to get rid of him. Now, if the new AD just wants him gone, they could use the violations no matter what type of season they have. JMO. Personally, I think we hit the 8 win mark and he sticks around.
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But in that case dismissal would have to be timed with findings, not record. They can't decide later to dismiss RR based on what has already been revealed, or his attorneys will simply argue that the dismissal is precisely what it appears to be.
 
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Oh8ch;1719954; said:
But in that case dismissal would have to be timed with findings, not record. They can't decide later to dismiss RR based on what has already been revealed, or his attorneys will simply argue that the dismissal is precisely what it appears to be.
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Won't that depend on how fast the NCAA issues it's final judgment on the issue? scUM filed their response to the Committee last month. Won't there now be a hearing scheduled, and then after the hearing the Committee will make a decision? Thus, it could be well into, or even after, the '10 football season before scUM would actually have a final determination that there was a major violation. Acting before that final determination is what got OSU into court with a certain former basketball coach.
 
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Zippercat;1720415; said:
Won't that depend on how fast the NCAA issues it's final judgment on the issue? scUM filed their response to the Committee last month. Won't there now be a hearing scheduled, and then after the hearing the Committee will make a decision? Thus, it could be well into, or even after, the '10 football season before scUM would actually have a final determination that there was a major violation. Acting before that final determination is what got OSU into court with a certain former basketball coach.
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Yep - the meeting with the NCAA should occur in August. After that, TSUN may well be able to can him with cause and avoid paying him anything more. But they don't want to hire a new head coach just before the season starts, so AD Brandon is acting like he's behind RR for now.

But if RR doesn't win 8 games, I expect Brandon to make a big speech about finding a real 'TSUN man' as he sends RR packing. Right after Brandon has installed full time guards around all the shredders. :wink2:
 
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Section 2.05 of RR's contract contains the provisions governing dismissal of RR for NCAA violations. This is my take on the matter. The applicable language in 2.05 should be read in conjunction with AD Brandon's statements made to the Detroit press on the termination issue:

Brandon added: "We did an internal investigation and as the director of athletics, this is where I had an extreme level of interest. ... Our compliance program has assured me they have had complete access to the program."
When asked whether the violations were cause to trigger a clause in Rich Rodriguez's contract for termination, Brandon answered: "I have the authority to make a judgment whether the violations that occurred triggered that clause. We don't believe that's appropriate under these sets of circumstances."
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Brandon's statement puts to bed any realistic chance Michigan has to terminate RR without some additional information coming to light. That additional information may be coming in the form of WVU allegedly preparing to self report violations during RR's tenure at WVU.

Don't be surprised if West Virginia University announces it has told the NCAA of violations in its football program and self-imposed sanctions, Chuck Landon, of the Herald-Dispatch of Huntington, W.Va., has written.
Landon says informed rumors are flying.
They stem from the fact that West Virginia was included in the investigation when the NCAA began looking into allegations that Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez had too many coaches on the practice field and was exceeding the time limit for preparation per week. The NCAA wanted to see if Rodriguez had done the same when he was at WVU.

The NCAA has learned, according to sources with knowledge of the situation, that two members of the football program that aren't on the coaching staff have indeed been coaching during practices.
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Brandon has stated to the press on numerous occasions that he is not aware of any information concerning NCAA violations by RR at WVU and is not involved in any NCAA matter that deals with WVU. If WVU does in fact self report RR violations and those violations are deemed either to be major violations or were intentionally committed in the case of non-major violations, 2.05 is triggered once again by the language that termination is permissible if the act took place during prior employment. In such a case Michigan athletics would need to provide the due process described in 2.05 - notice of violations, 14 day response time by RR, hearing.
 
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WolverineMike;1719952; said:
winslow, I think FSU pulled his offer after he chose Michigan the first time. After he didn't get in, I don't think the went back after him.


red, if he doesn't have an "eye popping" season, say another disaster and no bowl game, I don't think they'll need to use the violations as a reason to get rid of him. Now, if the new AD just wants him gone, they could use the violations no matter what type of season they have. JMO. Personally, I think we hit the 8 win mark and he sticks around.
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I think you're being generous. Your schedule isn't looking favorable for 8 wins. You only won 1 conference game last year and it was by a field goal to Indiana at home. Your non-conference schedule is even more difficult this year. I don't know why you guys aren't burning down Ann Arbor yet. By any team's standards, this is unacceptable.
 
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Collectively...

LordJeffBuck;1719287; said:
His safeties must be Rhodes scholars....
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Jaxbuck;1719415; said:
and his QB runs a sub 4.3
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1719417; said:
I've seen tater tot's website... he might be sub 2.0 in the 40
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kn1f3party said:
I think you're being generous. Your schedule isn't looking favorable for 8 wins. You only won 1 conference game last year and it was by a field goal to Indiana at home. Your non-conference schedule is even more difficult this year. I don't know why you guys aren't burning down Ann Arbor yet. By any team's standards, this is unacceptable.
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shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
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