Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

[wadc45]

Rodriguez's hometown divided

Rodriguez's hometown divided
Jake Stump / Charleston (W.Va.) Daily Mail

GRANT TOWN, W.Va. -- Motorists cruising through this almost forgotten coal town of 600-plus used to pass by gold and blue road signs proudly designating it as the "Home of WVU Head Football Coach Rich Rodriguez."

Not anymore.

Grant Town officials dug up the two signs and stashed them away in a garage Sunday afternoon, shortly after word got out their native son was abruptly leaving the Mountain State to coach Michigan.

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The not-so-proud crowd

That type of sentiment was far different at the Sak-N-Pak, a mom-and-pop restaurant/convenience store a few miles outside Grant Town.

The diner, located in Paw Paw, serves up hot country cooking. Signs are posted inside the eatery asking patrons to watch their language if children are present, and an old jukebox with 1950s tunes sits in the back.

Owner Harold Cogar puffed on a cigarette while watching ESPN from one of the diner's tables Monday afternoon.

"Outside the Lines" came on and featured Rodriguez's departure as the top story.

"Rodriguez just made me a fan of Ohio State," Cogar said. "He wronged the whole state, not just his players but the whole state.

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[WolverineTX]

Wow, the WVU Rivals board is going nuts, people somehow think he's going to pull the same crap he did at Bama and come back...

Wow indeed. I followed a good bit of last night's epic meltdown (with 2000+ users online... ugh, I think I'm a masochist). That poor board was getting trolled to the point of sheer pain, and unfortunate numbers were wholly unable to discern between reality and fantasy.

 

[WolverineTX]

Blockin' out the scenery, breakin' my mind...

DFP
W. Va. town removes Rich Rodriguez signs

Signs lean against a wall inside of a city garage in Grant Town. Officials there removed them Sunday after word got out Rodriguez was leaving to coach Michigan.

Someone taped a sheet of paper reading "Disgraced Home of Rich Rodriguez" to the Grant Town sign on Monday.

 

[WolverineTX]

Radio station says DJ is supended for playing Michigan fight song over and over

A Charleston radio personality was suspended from his job for refusing to tone down his on-air excitement over former WVU head football coach Rich Rodriguez's decision to take the head job at the University of Michigan.

Coach Kidd, a Michigan native, co-hosts the morning talk show on Electric 102.7 FM. For the past couple days, he's dominated the show's content with his feelings on how Rodriguez's job change will be a boon to the Wolverines football program -- much to the dismay of listeners.

After playing the Wolverines' fight song for a fourth time this morning, Coach Kidd was yanked off the air.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Easy for you to say. OSU and Alabama have the luxury of being able to turn up their nose and say no thanks. West Virginia does not. Lazear was going to play somewhere. That's life at a place like West Virginia where the expectations far exceed the pedigree. When a blue-chipper with a background falls into your lap, you convince yourself you can handle it if a problem comes up.

C'mon. We're not talking about Troy Smith coldcocking some preppy for dropping "N Bombs" on him during a basketball game. We're talking about felony armed robbery--committed by a rich, white kid from Bethesda no less who showed zero remorse after the incident and tried to portray himself as a victim. I don't care if you're Appy State, you walk away from a pos like that if you have any conscious or ethics at all.

I'll say one more thing. Perhaps someday RR or his wife or one of his kids will have someone shove a loaded weapon in their face. If and when that happens, I wonder how forgiving RR will be if the scumbag doesn't happen to be a 5* LB prospect but just a run of the mill thug.

 

[BuckeyeInTheBoro]

Another argument against DickRod... (by a friend of mine, a runner).

For me personally, I could care less about Mr. Rodriguez specifically. He is what most college football coaches are ? one eye always on the next step up. ....

I'd like to nominate this for a "Great post" award!

 

[Jaxbuck]

Easy there chief. I know how we all feel about scUM, but no reason to get vulgar about it. I personally believe that he isnt going to turn out too well at Michigan, but this thread is about discussion, dont need to get nasty about it. Gotta agree with 3yards on this one.

And now to lighten the mood:

If I wanted to get nasty I'd join in the crowd ragging the guys wife. All I did was call him a douche nozzle.

Where did all this PC toward the scUMers come from? They hired a guy with blemishes and we are taking them to task for it. They are our hated rival, its kind of what people do to their rivals on a message board last time I checked.

I fucking hate scUM, I hate their arrogant ass fans and now I hate the hillbilly they hired because he is their coach(I thought he was completely incompetent before they hired him btw). A couple of decent scUM posters on this board aren't going to change my mind on any of that.

Man, its like we've got a bunch of Herbie's on here all of a sudden. Anyone feeling all warm and fuzzy toward those cocksuckers because we've been winning needs to think long and hard about how they acted during the Cooper years.

If we won 50 in a row I personally couldn't wait to rub that 51st one in their faces.

 

[muffler dragon]

If you grew up in Marietta during that time then you knew Minoma. :)

Which time? 1952 or 1984? I grew up in Marietta, but I don't recall that word/name.

 

[muffler dragon]

Personal opinion polls typically are conducted in a scientific manner. The problem with Internet polls of this type, and of the type that ESPiN and their ilk love to host these days, is that the sample is self-selected. That is, the respondents have not been selected randomly from some defined universe of people, which means that we have no idea how representative the opinions are of the total universe.

That poll wasn't a typical personal opinion "poll", but a fairly extensive questionaire to current and former players which asked specific, measured questions and had controlled metrics.

In re-reading my post, it appears that Mili and I might hold different points of view. We don't. Just to clarify my earlier point, in support of what Mili said, here is what the Coach Ratings - College Football, Basketball and Baseball Players Rate Their Coaches site says about their methodology..


Coach Ratings? has a four-step approach to its rating process. This process helps ensure that we provide ratings that are accurate and informational.

1. Participant Validation - Participants in the rating process are identified in three ways: referrals from high school coaches, search efforts by Coach Ratings? and volunteers through the web site. Coach Ratings? encourages high school coaches to refer their former athletes to rate their current college coach. This is often a reliable way to validate an athlete's identity. Coach Ratings? will seek out and identify athletes through our own efforts to participate in the ratings. In this process we attempt to identify and contact athletes that can verify their identity. Those who volunteer through the web site are the most difficult to validate. If Coach Ratings? cannot validate an athlete's identity then they will not be allowed to rate their coach.
2. Rating Invitation - Once an athlete's identity has been validated they will receive an invitation to rate their coach. The invitation can only be used once and not forwarded to other individuals. NEVER at any point will a participant's rating and their contact information be shared with or sold to any third-party. Refer to the Privacy Policy and Terms of Use for more information.
3. Rating Submission - The participant will complete the rating and submit it to Coach Ratings?. The responses to the questions range from Strongly Disagree (1) to Strongly Agree (5). In most cases, a response with a higher score is positive feedback. However, there are some questions where a positive response would be to disagree with the statement. This is done to help ensure the participant is reading all the statements before answering. At the end of the rating the athlete can choose an overall score for their coach ranging from 1 (Poor) to 10 (Great). The Overall Coach Rating is derived from this question, not from a calculation of the other questions.
4. Publication - The ratings will be published and accessible through the Coach Ratings? web site. The rating will consist of a summary of all the submissions. Participants who provide ratings will ALWAYS remain anonymous and their individual rating will NEVER be published with their identity.

?Copyright 2003-2005 Coach Ratings, LLC. All Rights Reserved

I'll keep away from geek-speak. Coach Ratings LLC indicate that they have taken steps to control for biased responding (i.e., mixing positively and negatively worded questions to filter out players who just answer yes or no to all questions, etc). So, there is a clear attempt to provide a reliable and valid measure of player opinions about their coaches.

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Nevertheless, this poll has a lot more validity than a poll on CNNSI or ESPN because a professionally designed survey has been administered and an effort has been made to build a meaningful sample comprised of players, not just players who saw the poll and decided to participate. It nonetheless is subject to bias though because of the sample design and its conclusions should be viewed with caution.

As a point of clarification, I would like to put into terms what I meant when I said that personal opinion polls are rarely scientific.

I understand that criteria can be established for controls which are part of a particular methodology.

I was simply speaking regarding the subjective nature of the inquiry. It's not like we are dealing with inanimate objects to determine the validity of a hypothesis. In short, I was using "scientific" in its strictest of terms. I don't disagree with anything said by either of you. Sometimes, the chemist in me needs to be less pedantic and more explanatory.

My apologies.

 

[BB73]

All I did was call him a douche nozzle.

There's the problem. The correct term on BP is douchelozzle.

 

[Jaxbuck]

There's the problem. The correct term on BP is douchelozzle.

I'll just focus on the hair plugs from here on out in deference to the anti defamation of feminine hygene product league(ADFHPL) members on BP.

 

[BuckeyeThunder]

This is tough...

If it weren't for Ryan Mallett he would be a lock for Ann Arbor. I just don't know how this will work out. On one hand he T.P. is a much better fit for the system up north but Mallett is a 5 star with a huge upside and a years experience. Which ever one wins the job leaves the other out in the cold.

Mallett to Columbus?

 

[3yardsandacloud]

I'd like to nominate this for a "Great post" award!

Good idea.

If I wanted to get nasty I'd join in the crowd ragging the guys wife. All I did was call him a douche nozzle.

Where did all this PC toward the scUMers come from? They hired a guy with blemishes and we are taking them to task for it. They are our hated rival, its kind of what people do to their rivals on a message board last time I checked.

I fucking hate scUM, I hate their arrogant ass fans and now I hate the hillbilly they hired because he is their coach(I thought he was completely incompetent before they hired him btw). A couple of decent scUM posters on this board aren't going to change my mind on any of that.

Man, its like we've got a bunch of Herbie's on here all of a sudden. Anyone feeling all warm and fuzzy toward those cocksuckers because we've been winning needs to think long and hard about how they acted during the Cooper years.

If we won 50 in a row I personally couldn't wait to rub that 51st one in their faces.

Well I'm not advocating a friendly relationship with Michigan fans. You are more than welcome to bash the program, players and coaches to your hearts content. The point I attempted to make is that disparaging the Michigan program does NOT elevate the Ohio State program. That's what it looks like is going on. Every candidate that has surfaced has been roundly put down in what has been a weak attempt to bolster our own feelings of superiority. It is unneeded. Who are they supposed to hire? I guess it would be more genuine to say that we will discredit whoever they hire (even Bo reincarnated) because we simply relishing kicking them when they are down. I could actually understand that tact as it is at least truthful to some degree.

Personally I don't see RR as a great fit for Michigan, but maybe it is the best fit available. More importantly my opinion doesn't have validity as I don't really have Michigan's best interests at heart. Further I don't have the wish to kick Michigan when they are down simply because their fan base acted that way during the Cooper years. That is possibly the worst argument for such behavior. If true, then I would have become what I hate. Not a choice I'm willing to make. In my view, I'd like Michigan to get the absolute best person possible for the job ... then still kick their ass every year. I don't see this as being PC. I see this as wanting to be the best, both on the football field and off. If that requires that I conduct myself with more tact than Michigan fans during the Cooper years, then that's what I'm going to do. If that means we need to play the most difficult coach and team at Michigan, then that's what I want.

As for the Herbie comment you might want to reread the different threads concerning the Michigan coaching search. The few "Herbies" than have given an honest opinion are far outnumbered by the "Mark Mays" who have simply spouted emotionally biased venom. In that comparison, I will take your "Herbie" characterization as a compliment in the extreme.

Finally, I hope you know that I'm not pointing this response at just you Jax. I think you're really good member. One who's opinion I'm always eager to read. Maybe we're just on different side of the coin on this issue. While I don't know what the future hold for RR at Michigan, I don't think it will be characterized by failure. There is a whole infrastructure in place at schools like Michigan and Ohio State that make failure a difficult feat. There is a culture, an expectation, a pooling of resources both financial and material that make success much more than just a one person proposition.

Than being said ... Michigan Sucks! :)

 

[Jaxbuck]

Every candidate that has surfaced has been roundly put down in what has been a weak attempt to bolster our own feelings of superiority.

Thats the main disagreement for me.

Miles, RR, DeBord and English were the most common names and they were getting thrashed because they have their weaknesses not for the reasoning you are putting forth imo. I said many times the guy I was actually afraid of them hiring was Kelly.

When MSU hired John L I laughed, when they hired Dantonio I said "oh shit." I give credit where its due and if they took Kelly I honestly would have said "oh shit." They guy has won championships at lower levels and gets the most out of what he has at UC. Exactly what I didn't want to see go to AA.

I can't speak for all but my bashing was honestly based on my feelings of the limitations of the most commonly named candidates. I KNOW OSU is superior to scUM, I don't need to falsely talk them down to reinforce it.

The beautiful irony to me is scUM's arrogance made them go after a "name" and untill I see otherwise I think that led to a bad selection for them and a good one for us. In typical scUM arrogance they didn't want Kelly because of some rumored charachter issues but then they go get RR so they still have the charachter issues and a coach less apt to win imo.

Time may prove me wrong but as of right now I seriously doubt it. This has the John L Smith to MSU vibe to me like no hire since.

 

[shetuck]

... Than being said ... Michigan Sucks! :)

a resounding yes... but only if said sucking isn't merely an "attempt to bolster our own feelings of superiority"!

just sayin...