Frankly HTM I'm calling BS on your whole stance that the lawsuit is the
only thing about RR with which you take issue - characterizing RR's handling of the same as poor.
HailToMichigan;1142610; said:
{HTM Filters Out Buckeyes Saying Bad things About RR Unless ..} Lawsuit .... RR is not handling it particularly well, {snip}
Thus (to answer buckiprof) it got wearisome a while ago, but being tired of the lawsuit business and being tired of the coach are two different things.
You bundle the affidavit together with the contract buy-out lawsuit. That is a mistake, they are completely different matters. The affidavit was taken as part of the investigation by WVU into Magee's racism claim - not in pursuit of evidence pro or con the buy-out suit.
What about this, instead of responding to something that wasn't really asked (when are you tired of RR) instead talk to what is really at issue?
When - aside from the lawsuit - did you hear of, or see reported actions, words, statements about RR that would cause you to question his values or character?
You would have us believe that it didn't happen with this affidavit - barely credible in my view, certainly the statements made are a clear cause for concern.
You would have us believe that you have forgotten or have dismissed the manner in which he exited WVU, about which there was substantial reporting and blogging - why, because I'm so tired of it
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You would have us believe that RR phoning Pryor before his meeting with the WVU administration - truth of which is demonstrated by the original times given in the Scout article about the same - that this means nothing to you, it isn't a red flag. Why? Perhaps that falls under you dismissing out of hand any criticism of RR that emanates from either Columbus or from WVU territory. If so, then it means you are blinkering your view of the new guy in town - it becomes then only about winning at any cost.
The above would be reason enough to call BS. But then there is the little matter of common sense - the matter of contrast old and new - the matter of TSUN holding their standards and head high in the past, and their inability to really do so now. At least not without ignoring all the contrary evidence.
One case in point from a Buckeye perspective. Let us call it the grudging acceptance of Cooper.
After Bruce was fired Cooper was hired, in large part I remember, because of his win as HC at Az. State against TSUN in the Rose Bowl.
Bruce was widely admired, despite the travails of the football team on the field. Same I believe can be said about Carr. Cooper had some shoes to fill in terms of winning (Buckeyes wanted those championships, wanted those Rose Bowl appearances and certainly wanted to beat TSUN). Buckeye fans also wanted to be sure about their new leader's ability to step up as a representative of The Ohio State University. There was suspicion about Cooper's winning credentials amongst some Buckeye fans, one Rose Bowl win doth not a dynasty make. But, what raised eyebrows first around Columbus was an apparently minor deviation for Cooper from past behavior, but it was a major sign to fans that things were very, very different in terms of the coaches character.
Hot Tubs, Giant Eagle - commercialization and shilling to fatten his purse.
All of it perfectly legal, much of it happening elsewhere in the country at that time (read SEC, read PAC-10 country). But, still enough of a deviation from the community oriented and modest approach embodied by Bruce, and Hayes before him, that it put Cooper on thin ice, with me and with many others I know of.
Yet you would have us believe that the far worse things surrounding RR are not a cause for you to question his character?
