Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

[buckiprof]

can't wait to hear the spin from up north

Isn't this like some sort of bat signal for HTM?

 

[NFBuck]

Isn't this like some sort of bat signal for HTM?

No kidding, I'm shocked he isn't here yet.

 

[HailToMichigan]

Isn't this like some sort of bat signal for HTM?

Ripped off, cropped chopped and photoshopped for your amusement. I could probably let Pantsman here pretty much speak for me. But as usual I'm gonna take the bait for a bit.

Somebody wondered when we Michigan fans are going to get tired of this and I would say it would take a lot more than this. I know there's a lawsuit going on, I know I want it to be over with as soon as possible, and I know ugly stuff always comes out of a lawsuit with finger pointing on every side and you usually just have to choose who to believe. Therefore I suspect most Michigan fans are tuning out of lawsuit news.

To be 100% honest with how I feel about this? I'm numb to anything you guys have to say about the situation because you already worked yourselves into such a lather on every....single....little....detail of his departure from West Virginia. It was the college football equivalent of a messy divorce with hate and discontent on both sides and it looks as though it was brewing for quite some time. Possibly all season. So if things don't get handled with 110% perfection, it's forgivable in my mind. Hindsight is always 20/20, and I'm sure none of you guys have ever handled a situation that you look back and wish you'd have handled differently. Yet a phone call to Terrelle Pryor and paper-shredding painted him forever as the lowest scum ever to walk this earth. (I notice there hasn't been a peep, anywhere, on anything about this shredding business. Could this be because it really was nothing after all?)

Certainly would appear that RR is out for himself by that affidavit, wouldn't it? But you guys already think RR is a rogue, a rascal, a villain, a thief, a scoundrel, and a mean, dirty, stinking, sniveling, sneaking, pimping, pocketpicking, thrice double-damned, no-good son-of-a-bitch, and for doing a lot less than what's in that affidavit. So in the end, what's there for me to reply to?

 

[buckiprof]

Ripped off, cropped chopped and photoshopped for your amusement. I could probably let Pantsman here pretty much speak for me. But as usual I'm gonna take the bait for a bit.

Somebody wondered when we Michigan fans are going to get tired of this and I would say it would take a lot more than this. I know there's a lawsuit going on, I know I want it to be over with as soon as possible, and I know ugly stuff always comes out of a lawsuit with finger pointing on every side and you usually just have to choose who to believe. Therefore I suspect most Michigan fans are tuning out of lawsuit news.

To be 100% honest with how I feel about this? I'm numb to anything you guys have to say about the situation because you already worked yourselves into such a lather on every....single....little....detail of his departure from West Virginia. It was the college football equivalent of a messy divorce with hate and discontent on both sides and it looks as though it was brewing for quite some time. Possibly all season. So if things don't get handled with 110% perfection, it's forgivable in my mind. Hindsight is always 20/20, and I'm sure none of you guys have ever handled a situation that you look back and wish you'd have handled differently. Yet a phone call to Terrelle Pryor and paper-shredding painted him forever as the lowest scum ever to walk this earth. (I notice there hasn't been a peep, anywhere, on anything about this shredding business. Could this be because it really was nothing after all?)

Certainly would appear that RR is out for himself by that affidavit, wouldn't it? But you guys already think RR is a rogue, a rascal, a villain, a thief, a scoundrel, and a mean, dirty, stinking, sniveling, sneaking, pimping, pocketpicking, thrice double-damned, no-good son-of-a-bitch, and for doing a lot less than what's in that affidavit. So in the end, what's there for me to reply to?

Maybe ripped off, but still humorous.

I guess what I really wonder is the "fatigue" factor? The endless negative news surrounding your new coach, and frequent updates that do not paint him in a good light, has to get wearisome at some point, no matter how far in the sand one's head is.

If I simply consider the news around this man and pretend that he is the new coach at Wisky, I still do not see him in a better light. Your contention that some of our disgust with him revolves around the fact that he is the new head coach at WVU - Ann Arbor may have some merit with some, or with many. However, I would have the same level of disgust towards him if he were the new head coach at Wisky. I am more saddened that he is the new head coach at WVU - Ann Arbor because of what it could do to tarnish the best rivalry in sports.

 

[NFBuck]

Certainly would appear that RR is out for himself by that affidavit, wouldn't it? But you guys already think RR is a rogue, a rascal, a villain, a thief, a scoundrel, and a mean, dirty, stinking, sniveling, sneaking, pimping, pocketpicking, thrice double-damned, no-good son-of-a-bitch, and for doing a lot less than what's in that affidavit. So in the end, what's there for me to reply to?

Good question.

Thing is, his going to UM certainly heightened the hate for the guy, but if you read back prior to his hiring up there, he didn't have a whole lot of fans here. Even Grad, who is about as even-keeled a Buckeye fan as you will find said the guy was an asshole after attending one of his camps. That's pretty telling to me.

 

[Roger Goodell]

Pittsburgh Post Gazette sportswriter Chuck Finder implicated in helping RR and Magee spin a race card tale concerning Magee's chances for the WV head coaching job. See paragraph 12 of the Larry Aschebrook affidavit.

WOW.

I love how RRod answers every problem Aschebrook has by deflecting to something new. Your reputation and career is destroyed at WVU? Who cares, I'll hire you at UM. This is difficult for you? Who cares, this is about me. I have it much harder.



I then asked "Calvin, why me? This is going to ruin my career. I can't afford to be fired. I'm not like you and Rich, I don't have a contract. They are going to fire me over this BS. I've always supported you Calvin."

To which Mr. Magee said, "Larry... I know you have... she's (Ms. McIntosh) calling me a liar, she sent me a letter telling me that I'm a liar. I didn't know you don't have a contract. You don't want to be there anyway. What about my career... they treated me like *$*%."

I then told Mr. Magee, I could not afford this kind of trouble because I did not make the kind of money that he and Mr. Rodriguez made.

At that point Mr. Rodriguez spoke up and said, "This isn't about you Larry, its about me. You can't afford it, I can't afford it. I don't have $200,000 in the bank. I'm paying for Rita's family, my family, and they (WVU) are doing this to me. I'm sorry about this, but its business not friendship.

My response to Mr. Rodriguez was "that's f'ed up Rich... it's not about friendships? I've been through a lot here because I've been your friend." Then Mr. Rodriguez questioned who had been treated the worst, me or him. He said they (WVU) lied to him, over and over. They treated Calvin like $*%@. They fired Dusty. They (WVU) told him all of these lies, then he left because they (WVU) didn't do what they said, and now they are ruining my life.

12. I told Mr. Rodriguez I was sorry about all of that, but that I am being portrayed as a racist. Mr. Rodriguez said he would "tell the press it had nothing to do with me ... so will Calvin." I responded, "I'm supposed to get fired and you'll tell the press that I'm am not a racist?" Mr. Magee then added that they would tell the press that I was supportive, and that WVU used me as a scapegoat. I then asked, "You will tell who? Chuck Finder?" Mr. Rodriguez said, "Yes." Mr. Magee said, "Yeah, Chuck will help us."

13. I then told both Mr. Rodriguez and Mr. Magee that these allegations were going to get me fired, and ruin my life. I told them that I had worked to get where I am, and now they were ruining my career in college athletics. Mr. Rodriguez, "Don't worry about it. I'll get you a job up here. You've been loyal to me, I'll be loyal to you."

I said, That's great... I get painted like a racist, and I can come up then. That's f'ed up." Mr. Rodriguez said he was working on something for me. I asked what. He suggested I could raise money for Michigan football and work at his football camp.

14. I then asked, Why are you guys messing with my career? I'm not admitting to something that isn't true." Mr. Rodriguez then said, "Like I said, I'll get you a job tomorrow. You'll be fine."

I then responded, F' that, you'll be fine if I do this, I'll be screwed. You, Calvin and Greg are screwing me!" Mr. Rodriguez then said, "What about me? They (WVU) are suing me for $4 million." I said, "That's not my problem." Mr. Rodriguez then suggested, "Just tell her (Ms. McIntosh) how f'ed up it is there, and we'll get it all worked out." I told both of them I am not going out like this, and told them this is 'f-ed up." I then hung up the phone.

 

[Roger Goodell]

Simple question, HTM, have any of these events made part of you question RR's character? Or do you simply filter out all of it as 'enemy propaganda'?

Yet a phone call to Terrelle Pryor and paper-shredding painted him forever as the lowest scum ever to walk this earth. (I notice there hasn't been a peep, anywhere, on anything about this shredding business. Could this be because it really was nothing after all?)

You mean like Magee's race card?

As for why the shredding talk died down, even if it there was a youtube video proving he did it, it fades from my interest when compared some of these other accusations.

To be 100% honest with how I feel about this? I'm numb to anything you guys have to say about the situation because you already worked yourselves into such a lather on every....single....little....detail of his departure from West Virginia.

You say this as though these have not been extremely juicy details along the way. You can keep telling yourself it's just OSU hatred which makes personal document shredding a pretty juicy topic... but that's pretty naive.

 

[HailToMichigan]

Simple question, HTM, have any of these events made part of you question RR's character? Or do you simply filter out all of it as 'enemy propaganda'?

Quite a bit of it I do filter out as enemy propaganda. Lawsuit business I generally do not. I would like for there to be some kind of settlement, and soon. If Beilein could do it, Rodriguez can do it. RR is not handling it particularly well, WVU is not to be absolved of blame, and in the end I think a judge will make him pay back a portion of the $4 million, at some number which they could probably come to on their own several months before any verdict in the case if they would agree to tolerate each others' presence for just long enough to figure it out. Thus (to answer buckiprof) it got wearisome a while ago, but being tired of the lawsuit business and being tired of the coach are two different things.

 

[Roger Goodell]

Appreciate your responses in this thread, for varying reasons. Sometimes for the honest look at your mindset, sometimes for the entertainment (as I'm sure you enjoy in reverse here, at times), sometimes just for the sake of argument. Then there are the occasional posts which I think fall under your admission of stirring up the hornets' nest.

Oh, and the Bostonians are finished if I have anything to say about it.

 

[ChisAto]

To be 100% honest with how I feel about this? I'm numb to anything you guys have to say about the situation because you already worked yourselves into such a lather on every....single....little....detail of his departure from West Virginia.

Be like me and read it all every day, chuckle, and move on.

But there is something I'd like to see what you Buckeyes think. This isn't my opinion, it's a copy and paste from another site but I just wanted to see your comments.

Please, enumerate what he's done wrong since coming to Michigan. Thing's he's done:

1. Maybe sworn too much in practice?
2. Maybe "eroded family values"? I don't know what that really means.
3. Gotten accused of shredding documents - an accusation that WVU revoked.
4. Got accused of having a coach who accused someone of calling WVU racist.
5. Had a wife with big hair.

OK, 1 and 2 I lend no credence to. 3 is no longer relevant. 4 is pending. 5 is personal taste - whatever, I'm not going to begrudge him that.

I guess I'm missing the litany of sins he's committed.

 

[NFBuck]

Be like me and read it all every day, chuckle, and move on.

But there is something I'd like to see what you Buckeyes think. This isn't my opinion, it's a copy and paste from another site but I just wanted to see your comments.

Well, immediately off the top of my head from the past week-week and a half...

- The story discussed on the past two-three pages
- Having his lawyer comparing his WVU contract to "slavery".

There's a lot of smoke around this guy...I'm not talking about NCAA-violation stuff, I'm talking about stuff that makes it really easy to call his character into question. There's lots of it.

Bottom line is Bo was an asshole, Lllllloyd was an asshole, but neither of them did anything that would necessarily make me question them as a man. DickRod is quite different.

 

[Crashcup]

IMO no coaching change has ever gotten this out of hand between a coach and a school. RR and his family are being dragged through the mud and villified virtually everywhere because of his contractual obligation and to top it all off, he's now forced to litigate.

I cannot see any way where he would be honest and say it was "worth it."

I cannot think of any other coaching change made coming out so wrong.

 

[billmac91]

Be like me and read it all every day, chuckle, and move on.

But there is something I'd like to see what you Buckeyes think. This isn't my opinion, it's a copy and paste from another site but I just wanted to see your comments.

I went over the edge on him, as NFBuck addressed, when his lawyer compared DRod's contract situation at WVU to "slaves having to buy their freedom from owners" and DRod didn't fire him.

The fact that McGee used the race card to try and strengthen DRod's case against WVU is almost as dispicable.

The guy just has no character and is actually offensive.

 

[NFBuck]

Very disappointing and insightful read....

Standard stuff. A couple people bring up their concerns with what the may have gotten themselves into, while most continue to bury their heads in the sand.

How this latest story cannot concern even the biggest kool-aid drinking fans is beyond me.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Very disappointing and insightful read....

Standard stuff. A couple people bring up their concerns with what the may have gotten themselves into, while most continue to bury their heads in the sand.

How this latest story cannot concern even the biggest kool-aid drinking fans is beyond me.

Read HTM's post above its the same thing really.

They are just so saturated with this stuff they don't even want to discuss it or acknowledge it anymore. We eventually got this way with MoC, yep he's a fuckwad and an embarrassment lets move on type of thing.

Doesn't make it less real to the outside world, they are just past the point of feeling pain in regards to RR...that is untill the season starts.