Refuted: 2007 Illinois --Best in Big Ten?

[Bucklion]

No bet - I'm not married :tongue2: but the fact that you say "house" when referring to Jax's dwelling place is all the reason I need not to put my bankroll up against his.

You're right of course....I'm easy to spin up. Which is really why I stick around though.....can't get into this kind of entertaining argument only ever posting on my own teams' boards. It's all about rehashing "Carr sucks." "No he doesn't." and "Osgood sucks." "No he doesn't."



Touche.

Anyway, maybe I should buzz off and cool down for a while.

P.S. ....


Oregon.

BYU, Colorado State, Wyoming....is there anyone in the Mountain West that hasn't beaten you since 2000? :tongue2:

 

[Steve19]

BYU, Colorado State, Wyoming....is there anyone in the Mountain West that hasn't beaten you since 2000? :tongue2:

Daayyumm! That was cold blooded!

 

[HailToMichigan]

BYU, Colorado State, Wyoming....is there anyone in the Mountain West that hasn't beaten you since 2000? :tongue2:

:( the BYU game was my first ever as a UVA student and really my first as as UVA fan....a real heartbreaker that one was, but I have fond memories anyway because it got me hooked, and I've never left a UVA game since then with full use of my vocal cords

If we're gonna talk about UVA's record against various conferences since 2000, the Big East would be a much better topic.

 

[Mike80]

Anyway, for anyone who is rightly doubting Matt Hayes' sanity..

Notre Dame.
One of two things happens this season: Either there's a natural drop-off because of so many questions on offense or Charlie Weis shows he can coach his tail off. This isn't a BCS-caliber team, but the talent was significantly upgraded in the past two recruiting classes.

SportingNews.com - College Football - Scouting the Independents

But at the bottom he says this:

Circle the date
November 3. Navy's 43-game losing streak to Notre Dame will end. This year will make up for all those recent near misses (in 1997, '99, 2002, '03 by a combined 18 points).

:2004:

 

[osugrad21]

Link

Zook has Illini flying high

Turner era holdovers, influx of talent, even good coaching, key to Illinois' resurgence


October 9, 2007
BY HERB GOULD [email protected]

 

[osugrad21]

Canton

Big Ten Notebook: What can Illini do for encore?
Wednesday, October 10, 2007
BIG TEN NOTEBOOK
TODD PORTER

This was the signature win Ron Zook needed. Every rebuilding project needs one game that gets the program over the hump of mediocrity.

Illinois, ranked for the first time since 2001, got it Saturday against Wisconsin.

Veteran Big Ten Coach Joe Tiller took over a Purdue team that was 3-8 in 1996. After losing the season opener in 1997, Tiller led the Boilermakers past 12th-ranked Notre Dame.

?(Illinois) won a football game against a highly-ranked team, and they did it pretty convincingly,? Tiller said. ?When you do that, it energizes your program and your fan base. You pick up the ones who left you, and the ones who were with you all along get more energy. All that stuff is contagious, and you?ve got to springboard on to something special.?

Cont..

 

[NightmaresDad]

Quote:
"Illinois will score - with a punishing ground game - on anyone in the Big Ten."

Again with all due respect to OSU's defense, I believe there isn't a defense in the conference that can bottle up Illinois' attack for a full 60. Their rushing attack is top-5 in the country.

Hail, you and the SN guy appear to know equally little about football.

"Illinois will score on anyone in the Big Ten" Really? What does that mean - 3 points is "scoring". Purdue "scored" on us. Big Deal.

What does 'bottle up" mean? Less than 100 yards? Less than 150 yards?
Hell, they sure as hell can't pass very effectively, so they had better be able to run for at least 200 if they think thy're going to beat us. Are you saying they will run for that much with their option game?

Have you seen our defense? have you seen ANY perimeter shit working against our D? We have the best sideline-to-sideline speed in the Big Ten by a wide margin, and I guarantee you that we will force IL to have to throw the ball - and they won't like it.

WI's defense is S-L-O-W. They have a bunch of Chris Grahams our there who can't get to the corner in time. Their DE's couldn't read the option worth a damn either. We will continually force "Juice" to pitch the ball and then string the RB out to the sideline. It will look like a series of replays of the same play over an over. They may move the ball for a series or two early, then you can forget about it after the first 20 minutes.
Ask Joe Tiller what he thinks IL's chances are trying to beat us outside with the option.

I am more concerned about Wisky's running game powering north and south and spreading the field north and south than any perimeter-based offense.

 

[Jaxbuck]

My biggest source of concern if I were an Illini fan would be the one dimensional nature of their offense. Williams is getting better every week and they have a stud WR but against an elite defense I would still be concerned that the run would be taken away and he'd have to win by throwing the ball. I don't know that he's ready for that.

Bottom line is you can get away with being unbalanced when you have an athletic advantage but when you are playing a team as good or better...you have to have some balance.

 

[heisman]

Dave Revsine just asked Chris Martin on Big Ten Tonight, "When will Illinois' next loss come? He answered, "do you have next year's schedule?"

The obvious follow up was, "When will Ohio State's next loss come?" To which Martin answered, "against Illinois of course." "You heard it here." "They are going to go into Columbus and take it to the Buckeyes!!!"

He must still be salty over that 58-7 thrashing we gave his alma mater. Well, either that or smoking crack! :)

 

[Gatorubet]

Dave Revsine just asked Chris Martin on Big Ten Tonight, "When will Illinois' next loss come? He answered, "do you have next year's schedule?"

The obvious follow up was, "When will Ohio State's next loss come?" To which Martin answered, "against Illinois of course." "You heard it here." "They are going to go into Columbus and take it to the Buckeyes!!!"

He must still be salty over that 58-7 thrashing we gave his alma mater. Well, either that or smoking crack! :)

If purposely arranging to have rock hard water spray smash into my groin at 50 mph is wrong.....

 

[HailToMichigan]

Quote:
"Illinois will score - with a punishing ground game - on anyone in the Big Ten."


Hail, you and the SN guy appear to know equally little about football.

"Illinois will score on anyone in the Big Ten" Really? What does that mean - 3 points is "scoring". Purdue "scored" on us. Big Deal.

What does 'bottle up" mean? Less than 100 yards? Less than 150 yards?
Hell, they sure as hell can't pass very effectively, so they had better be able to run for at least 200 if they think thy're going to beat us. Are you saying they will run for that much with their option game?

Have you seen our defense? have you seen ANY perimeter shit working against our D? We have the best sideline-to-sideline speed in the Big Ten by a wide margin, and I guarantee you that we will force IL to have to throw the ball - and they won't like it.

WI's defense is S-L-O-W. They have a bunch of Chris Grahams our there who can't get to the corner in time. Their DE's couldn't read the option worth a damn either. We will continually force "Juice" to pitch the ball and then string the RB out to the sideline. It will look like a series of replays of the same play over an over. They may move the ball for a series or two early, then you can forget about it after the first 20 minutes.
Ask Joe Tiller what he thinks IL's chances are trying to beat us outside with the option.

I am more concerned about Wisky's running game powering north and south and spreading the field north and south than any perimeter-based offense.

First off, I don't think Joe Tiller would know anything about trying to beat OSU with the option. Purdue tried almost 65 pass plays and ran it maybe 12. Curtis Painter will be an option quarterback when Ryan Mallett is a long jumper.

Second, you tell me I don't know anything about football because I say nobody can bottle up Illinois' attack for the full 60 minutes. Then you admit it might take 20 minutes for OSU to figure out how to stop it. Which'll it be? Don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about if your argument's the same as mine.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Dave Revsine just asked Chris Martin on Big Ten Tonight, "When will Illinois' next loss come? He answered, "do you have next year's schedule?"

The obvious follow up was, "When will Ohio State's next loss come?" To which Martin answered, "against Illinois of course." "You heard it here." "They are going to go into Columbus and take it to the Buckeyes!!!"

Chris Martin:

 

[Jaxbuck]

God I hope this "Illinois is really the best team in the B10" hype from the media continues to grow at this rate all the way up to week 11. We couldn't ask for anything better to make sure the Illini have our full undivided attention the week before The Game.

 

[muffler dragon]

Dave Revsine just asked Chris Martin on Big Ten Tonight, "When will Illinois' next loss come? He answered, "do you have next year's schedule?"

The obvious follow up was, "When will Ohio State's next loss come?" To which Martin answered, "against Illinois of course." "You heard it here." "They are going to go into Columbus and take it to the Buckeyes!!!"

He must still be salty over that 58-7 thrashing we gave his alma mater. Well, either that or smoking crack! :)

Who's Chris Martin?

 

[heisman]

Who's Chris Martin?

He's a former Northwestern and Chicago Bears DB who is a studio analyst for Big Ten Tonight, and color commentator for BTN football games.