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Reds Tidbits (2011 Season)

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Jaxbuck;1908869; said:
In related but shocking news, Josh Johnson appears to have found a way to quiet the mighty Pirate offense as they are hitless after 3.

How is it possible any pitcher can do such a thing?
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Johnson is better than anybody the Reds can put out there, but that doesn't diminish you point.

Also, after you brought his name up I immediately checked out his contract situation. It's a shame he's signed affordably through 2013. If any team might be amenable to parting with a TOR guy for a package centered around Alonzo/Grandal, it just might've been the Marlins.
 
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Jaxbuck;1908817; said:
I posted this over at RZ but they are such arrogant pricks I don't expect a decent answer.

A serious trade proposal that makes sense for both teams and is realistic in terms of $$ going in both directions:

Votto, Cueto and Juan Francisco to Seattle for Felix Hernandez.

Thoughts?

For the record I'd do it.
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No way. Votto is a higher WAR player than Hernandez, and costs less. You get Hernandez for 1 more year, but you will pay him about $16 million more than Votto in the next 3 years, plus have to pay him $20 million in 2014. I'd rather take that money and offer Votto 3 more years at close to $20 million per.

Francisco I'd trade for some used jock straps, but I would not include Cueto in that trade. On top of all that, I consider Hernandez higher risk than Votto.

So no, I would not do that trade.
 
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gefootball10;1908838; said:
Yeah, if I'm Seattle and I'm giving up the reigning CY winner, I'm wanting something more than any one of our dream deals.

My reasoning for being able to part ways with Votto is strictly because we are dealing with Felix here. The guy as you said is three years younger than Votto, and although we all love him, Votto can dip out after 2012 if he wants. With Felix I think we have a guy who would be capable to match a guy like Halladay pitch for pitch in the playoffs. With just that equalizer, I like our chances a lot more in a series with Philly (aka the goal we would all like to be met with this years team)
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Votto is signed through 2013, Hernandez is signed through 2014. I don't care about ages, I care about contracts (this is the Reds we are talking about, not the Yankees). In the next 3 years (includes this one) Hernandez will make $16 million more than Votto. Plus Votto is an every day player. Give me the MVP over the Cy Young pretty much any year.

Sorry to interrupt the game with these replies.
 
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scott91575;1908875; said:
No way. Votto is a higher WAR player than Hernandez, and costs less. You get Hernandez for 1 more year, but you will pay him about $16 million more than Votto in the next 3 years, plus have to pay him $20 million in 2014. I'd rather take that money and offer Votto 3 more years at close to $20 million per.

Francisco I'd trade for some used jock straps, but I would not include Cueto in that trade. On top of all that, I consider Hernandez higher risk than Votto.

So no, I would not do that trade.
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Votto is barely a better WAR player and that is just in his career year of 2010. I mentioned FH's age in the off chance he was crazy enough in my little fantasy world to resign with the Reds. :wink2: He'd be 28 and just entering his prime.

Cueto balances the books between the cost of FH and Votto plus you lose nothing, we have 6 more just like him.

Agreed on the JF for a pile of used jock straps.

I can see both sides, just wanted to get some feedback on it.
 
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