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Reds Tidbits (2009 season)

reagdog;1466513; said:
D-Backs suck. Whoopty fucking doo. You beat the last place team in the shitty NL West. Pop the fucking champagne! :drunks:

I'm so pissed at these sucky ass D-Backs. Wake UP CALL!!! D-Backs, you're not in fucking AA anymore!!! I think I might go to the next game just to boo the shit out of them.

I'm slightly intoxicated, so don't take my post the wrong way.

Eric Byrnes, stop doing your gay ass weekly televisoin show and start practicing how to hit a fucking baseball..... Oh, and stop promoting that gay ass clothing line you just came out with and practice hitting the fucking baseball. If the D-Backs weren't payijng you 12 fucking million a year, they'd bench the shit out of you.; stupd
Let the hate flow through you.

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scott91575;1466506; said:
Oh, BTW....First place! Hope it lasts. Of course if St. Louis wins today it will be short lived (for now).
I don't think I can stay up past 1:00am another night in a row and still make it into work the next morning. I'm grateful there's no game today. These west coast trips suck.
 
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reagdog;1466513; said:
D-Backs suck. Whoopty [censored]ing doo. You beat the last place team in the [censored]ty NL West. Pop the [censored]ing champagne! :drunks:

I'm so [censored]ed at these sucky ass D-Backs. Wake UP CALL!!! D-Backs, you're not in [censored]ing AA anymore!!! I think I might go to the next game just to boo the [censored] out of them.

I'm slightly intoxicated, so don't take my post the wrong way.

Eric Byrnes, stop doing your gay ass weekly televisoin show and start practicing how to hit a [censored]ing baseball..... Oh, and stop promoting that gay ass clothing line you just came out with and practice hitting the [censored]ing baseball. If the D-Backs weren't payijng you 12 [censored]ing million a year, they'd bench the [censored] out of you.; stupd

You will notice last post did not even bother mentioning the irrelevant Dbags, I mean Dbacks.

Yet the Reds are in first place, and that is the true victory. Now they just need to keep up the pace.
 
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Cueto, Reds stay hot, move into first place

By Hal McCoy
Staff Writer

Updated 7:20 AM Thursday, May 14, 2009

PHOENIX ? When Arizona pitcher Bryan Augenstein took the mound in Chase Field for the first inning, the music he heard was by Phil Collins: ?I?ve been waiting for this moment all my life.?
It was his major-league debut, and he?ll have to wait for another moment for his first major-league victory, because now is not the time to run into Johnny Cueto and/or the Cincinnati Reds.
Cueto won his third straight decision, holding the Diamondbacks to four hits over seven innings, and Brandon Phillips led a 14-hit attack with two doubles that produced four runs in a 10-3 victory.
And how does this one sound? The Reds, St. Louis and Milwaukee are tied for first place in the National League Central at 20-14.
?Our swagger is real nice right now, and our team chemistry is gorgeous,? said Phillips. ?This is the best team I?ve ever played on.?
And first place?
?This is just the beginning,? he said. ?It?s just like getting to the major leagues ? the hardest thing is to stay there. Anybody can get there, but it is all about staying there. But it does feel good.
?Plus our pitching is gorgeous,? he added. ?It makes us play defense, because they are not wasting time and not walking anybody.?
It is a positive numbers game for the Reds: They?ve won six of seven, are 6-2 on travel days, 7-2 in game three of series and 9-4 in May. They are six over .500, the team?s best since it was 12 over at 36-25 in 2006.
The Reds swept three games in Arizona for the first time in 10 years, back when Chase Field was Bank One Ballpark and the D-Backs wore green and purple uniforms.
They should wear black and blue these days with their 13-22 record, tied with Cleveland for most defeats in the majors.


Cont..
 
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BuckStocksHere;1466878; said:
Say hello to your first place Milwaukee Brewers!!! and who would have guessed Cincy in 2nd - okay tied with two others for second.
Milwaukee's composition still bothers me. I know PECOTA had them rated pretty high because of the offense, but I still can't get past thinking the 2009 Brewers are the 2006 Cincinnati Reds. They could easily come out and be more than 10 games over .500 heading into June/July, but combine one bad start wreaking the bullpen for a week plus a hitting slump in the 3-4-5 spots and the Brewers could lose 8-of-10 games real quick, similar to the slow April start when Braun opened in a slump and the pitchers were issuing too many walks. I just can't look past that 3-8 start to open the season.

Not that the Reds are any better, though. I'm enjoying the run and the way these guys are playing right now, but everybody in this thread knows Taveras + Hairston aren't hitting .500 combined the rest of the season and pacing this team to double digit runs scored every other game, like what they just did in Arizona.

I still feel the Central is either Chicago's or St Louis's to win, but I'm enjoying the ball being played in the NL Central right now while it doesn't suck.
 
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Dryden;1467167; said:
Milwaukee's composition still bothers me. I know PECOTA had them rated pretty high because of the offense, but I still can't get past thinking the 2009 Brewers are the 2006 Cincinnati Reds. They could easily come out and be more than 10 games over .500 heading into June/July, but combine one bad start wreaking the bullpen for a week plus a hitting slump in the 3-4-5 spots and the Brewers could lose 8-of-10 games real quick, similar to the slow April start when Braun opened in a slump and the pitchers were issuing too many walks. I just can't look past that 3-8 start to open the season.

Not that the Reds are any better, though. I'm enjoying the run and the way these guys are playing right now, but everybody in this thread knows Taveras + Hairston aren't hitting .500 combined the rest of the season and pacing this team to double digit runs scored every other game, like what they just did in Arizona.

I still feel the Central is either Chicago's or St Louis's to win, but I'm enjoying the ball being played in the NL Central right now while it doesn't suck.


I don't agree that everyone is smart enough to know this but I agree with everything else you said.
 
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So far, so good for Reds | Cincinnati Enquirer | Cincinnati.Com

Pitching: The Reds haven't lost three in a row all season because they haven't gone more than a game or two between quality starts. The Reds are 15-2 when they get a quality start, defined as going at least six innings and allowing no more than three earned runs.
The 2 losses when getting a quality start were the 3-2 14-inning loss to the Marlins (Harang went 7 innings, 2 earned), and the 4-1 loss in Houston when Cordero came in to pitch the 9th and blew the 1-1 tie (Cueto went 7 innings, 1 earned).

Bullpen: It's 14-0 after taking the lead into the fifth inning, and hasn't blown a save under that scenario. It's tops in baseball in both categories.
Bold is mine. They're what though, 0-3 in pulling out ties?

Defense: The Reds rank next to last in National League fielding. But the defense, particularly in the outfield, is much improved. The Reds have seven outfield errors. Darnell McDonald and Chris Dickerson have five between them.

But the starting outfielders against right-handers ? Willy Taveras, Jay Bruce and Laynce Nix ? have a total of two errors. Taveras eats up ground in center field. Nix has been terrific since taking over in left field. Bruce leads the majors with six outfield assists, and has more range than most right fielders.
McDonald and Dickerson really shouldn't even be on this team, but Dusty prefers these types of players over a guy like Gomes because of their body types. They "look" like they're better athletes, despite the fact they're just as big of liabilities in the field as Gomes would ever be and are career AA-class hitters, minus Dickerson's one good month in the Show last year.

The bigger question though is what the hell happens at 3B and SS now? EE's bat is valuable, when he's in his groove. Rosales doesn't have EE's power, but his approach is better and he's probably less likely to go into protracted hot/cold streaks than EE. Neither of them have shown themselves to be great defenders, though EE has the upside. At this point I'd be happy leaving Hairston at SS ahead of A Gon until he stops producing or injures himself again, whichever comes first.

No idea what the hell Dusty does with this mess. I'm reading comments on other sites where many would like to see Hairston as the everyday SS, A Gon as the everyday 3B, Rosales as the super-utility IF and RH bat off the bench, and EE ... ? Jax said EE would become the whipping boy with Dunn gone, but damn if I'm sick of three seasons waiting for EE to "put it all together."

The running game: Taveras is among the NL leaders with 10 steals and has been caught once. And the Reds are decidedly more aggressive in taking the extra base.
Taveras wanted to steal 100 bases this year. He's on pace for 48.

According to Mark Wagner, stat man for WLW-AM "SortsTalk" host Lance McAlister, entering Wednesday the Reds had gone from first to third base on a single 25 times. That's second-most in baseball. They finished 27th in the category last year.
MLB leaders in the first to third on a single category have been Mike Scioscia's Angels for the last three years in a row, according to Chris Welsh in the last broadcast.

Resiliency: The Reds had some tough losses: A 14-inning, 3-2 loss in Miami. The extra-inning 8-7 loss to St. Louis last Sunday. And the 15-3 Bronson Arroyo blowout at the hands of Milwaukee. But each time, they won the next game.
Just convince Cordero a tie game is actually a save situation and the Reds are golden.

And those bunts Baker mentioned? Cincinnati leads the NL with 26 sacrifices.
Far be it from me to actually pay Dusty Baker a compliment, but damn if the team is less frustrating to watch than any of the squads Miley or Narron ran out there.

Now, oddly enough, this year's team actually has a worse record than the 2006 team did at this point in the season. The '06 team was 22-12 after 34 games and 1/2-game back of the Mets for the best record in the entire NL. So despite the fact the offense is worse, the defense is statistically worse, and the record is worse, this team "looks" better because they play the game "The Right Way"(tm).

:lol:

Fuck I love baseball!
 
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So despite the fact the offense is worse, the defense is statistically worse, and the record is worse, this team "looks" better because they play the game "The Right Way"(tm).

And there you have it.

I have a cousin that lives up there, who I consider the prototype Reds fan, call me up and say he doesn't care about defense he wants "pete" roseales to be the every day 3B because he hustles. When I mention that EE is a better hitter than AR but gets crucified for his defense I get the "I don't care what the stats say I know what I know/he plays the game the right way" speech. Reminded me of some here.

Overall I do think the franchise is headed in a better direction simply based on the fact we have a decent core of young pitching and the minors are producing talent. Dusty Baker and the FO's fixation on there only being one way to play the game still scares the hell out of me but we shall see. They can't be any worse than the past 10 years or so.
 
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Jaxbuck;1467301; said:
Overall I do think the franchise is headed in a better direction simply based on the fact we have a decent core of young pitching and the minors are producing talent. Dusty Baker and the FO's fixation on there only being one way to play the game still scares the hell out of me but we shall see. They can't be any worse than the past 10 years or so.
What I am happy to see is that the team can manufacture a run or two when the power-bats take the week off, such as the first two weeks of the season when they still played .500 ball despite how poorly BP and Bruce were flailing at pitches two feet out of the strike zone. If the pitching holds up they've got a chance in every game, all the way down to Micah Owings in the five spot.

After the Arizona series I'm not sure what the hell the answer is at 3B now. Rosales butchered practically every ball hit to him.
 
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Dryden;1467315; said:
What I am happy to see is that the team can manufacture a run or two when the power-bats take the week off, such as the first two weeks of the season when they still played .500 ball despite how poorly BP and Bruce were flailing at pitches two feet out of the strike zone. If the pitching holds up they've got a chance in every game, all the way down to Micah Owings in the five spot.

After the Arizona series I'm not sure what the hell the answer is at 3B now. Rosales butchered practically every ball hit to him.

Thats the real key imo, good pitching can keep you in games untill you score runs no matter how you go about scoring them. There are always going to be times your offense stalls regardless of style.

Leading the league in first to 3rd is a great sign and the good part of small ball. Leading the league in voluntary outs is not good and the biggest downside to small ball imo. When Tavaras comes crashing back to earth and the manager continues to give away outs with non pitchers the run production is going to fall way off.

I still say the same thing I did in the off season, the pitching is good but not good enough to overcome the offense(unless of course WT can keep it up all year and no one gets hurt) and still shaky defense.
 
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