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Reds Tidbits (2008 season)

Two run single by BPhil. Bad move going for second base there but he beat that tag. Bad call by the ump and bad move by Brandon.

6-0 Reds.

How the fuck is it that we cant beat the piss poor Dodgers at home and we take the first two from New York in Yankee stadium? Ridiculous.
 
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Good finish Reds.


If Aaron Harang gets his shit together we would have a top 3 pitching staff in baseball. We still cant hit water from a boat but still....

I'd sure love to get a sweep tomorrow with Cueto on the mound.
 
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To bad thompson didn't get the decision, but he pitched great. A nice win for the Reds, maybe this is a turn around point in the season. Once we get the walking wounded healed up the Reds should be god to go.
 
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espn.com

Thompson carries Reds, shuts out Yankees in big-league debut


NEW YORK (AP) -- Edwin Encarnacion broke up an unlikely pitchers' duel with a two-run single in the seventh inning and the Cincinnati Reds beat the New York Yankees 6-0 on Saturday.
Encarnacion's two-out hit off Dan Giese (1-2) gave Cincinnati the lead and Corey Patterson followed with a drive to right off Jose Veras for his 100th career homer. Brandon Phillips tacked on a two-run single in the eighth.

Daryl Thompson worked five innings in his major league debut for Cincinnati, which has won the first two games in its first trip to the Bronx since it swept New York in the 1976 World Series.

Continued.......
 
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Bestbuck36;1189344; said:
If Aaron Harang gets his shit together we would have a top 3 pitching staff in baseball. We still cant hit water from a boat but still....

Well if I were only searching for boundless optimism, this is the thread, I guess....

Seriously though, even with Harang pitching balls to the wall, you still have that bullpen and still no real strong back end of the rotation. Perhaps you meant something else, but there is nothing on this team that should give you that impression.
 
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There is a real nice young core of talent and its spread out to enough positions that they really aren't that far off. The problem as I see it is a combo of the schizo routine you get from young players, Cueto being the best example, and the utter lack of leadership, or production, from the older guys.

This years just too much to ask after that last losing skid but they have shown the ability to play very well against good teams when they are on.


All in all I'm interested to see what WJ does in the coming months, he has the track record to warrant hope and the situation isn't completely hopless.
 
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Jaxbuck;1189462; said:
There is a real nice young core of talent and its spread out to enough positions that they really aren't that far off. The problem as I see it is a combo of the schizo routine you get from young players, Cueto being the best example, and the utter lack of leadership, or production, from the older guys.

Many teams have been built the way the Reds are now. Eventually a leader has to emerge or it won't happen.

This years just too much to ask after that last losing skid but they have shown the ability to play very well against good teams when they are on.

Kind of like the Columbus Blue Jackets actually. Started pretty well, then the wheels fall off, then play badly against teams they should beat but play very well against teams that shouldn't have a problem beating them.

All in all I'm interested to see what WJ does in the coming months, he has the track record to warrant hope and the situation isn't completely hopless.

Now there I can agree. This isn't like you have a GM afraid to make moves and you certainly don't have a moron in Jocketty. Baseball is a funny game that way.

But let's not be premature. I only have to go back about 10 pages to see you all wishing for .600 ball from these guys :p
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1189511; said:
Many teams have been built the way the Reds are now. Eventually a leader has to emerge or it won't happen.

Agree completely. I have been pretty vocal in calling for an exorcisim of the losing culture of this franchise. No way to know for sure but I think JR, Dunn and maybe even Harang and Arroyo are part of that. If you see productive guys sent packing I'm willing to wager WJ thinks they fall into that category.


Kind of like the Columbus Blue Jackets actually. Started pretty well, then the wheels fall off, then play badly against teams they should beat but play very well against teams that shouldn't have a problem beating them.

I'll take your word for it, I don't follow hockey. The Reds started horrifically, played very well for about a month then the wheels fell off again. They seem to play down to their level of competition and can't sustain the intensity needed for long winning streaks or to break short losing streaks. All the hallmarks of an immature or mentally weak team imo(I think they are both).


But let's not be premature. I only have to go back about 10 pages to see you all wishing for .600 ball from these guys :p

and you only have to go look at the record from May 5 to about June 5 to see them play it for a solid 30 dayish stretch. If they can do it that long they can do it longer, its not just blind optimisim.

If they solve the #5 spot issue the Reds have as good a starting rotation as anyone.

As much as I doubted them this off season Bray, Burton and Cordero have made for a pretty effective back end of a pen. Roenicke is on the way and Affeldt is doing better than average. Note the date and time I said this but I'm not worried about the pen anymore.

The biggest issue now is the patchwork nature of the roster for the position players and the overall weakness of the CF, SS and C positions along with the millstone effect of JR.

They strike gold in the shakeups to come and solve the CF, SS, C (and probably LF) questions and this team is as good as anyone. I'm not afraid to say that at all.
 
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I have a friend of a friend who knows a priest who specializes in exorcisms of sports team and misguided and wayward people who are trapped into becoming fans of long suffering teams .
PM me for his email. Nm he already knows how to contact you.
 
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Best Buckeye;1189532; said:
I have a friend of a friend who knows a priest who specializes in exorcisms of sports team and misguided and wayward people who are trapped into becoming fans of long suffering teams .
PM me for his email. Nm he already knows how to contact you.


I'm beyond the grace of God where the Reds are concerned.:wink2:
 
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Dispatch

Reds 6 Yankees 0
Sleepless rookie silences Yankees

Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:38 AM
By Hal McCoy


Dayton Daily News
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Frank Franklin II Associated Press
Corey Patterson watches his 100th career home run, which gave the Reds a 4-0 lead in the seventh inning.



NEW YORK -- Daryl Thompson might have thought it was a form of rookie hazing, his teammates not scoring runs in his major-league debut.
But that isn't the case. The Cincinnati Reds seldom score runs for anybody, treating home plate like Mount Everest or the South Pole -- a place difficult to reach.
The 22-year-old Thompson, pitching in Yankee Stadium yesterday, didn't listen to the Ghost Whisperers of Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle. He held the Yankees to no runs and four hits (four walks, two strikeouts) in five innings, but his offensive buddies scored zero against 31-year-old journeyman Dan Giese, making his first major-league start, for six innings.
For the Reds, though, all's well that ends well. They scored four unearned runs in the seventh and two runs in the eighth to win their second straight over the Yankees 6-0.

Continued........
 
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