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CookyPuss
Screw Blue
bearonu;894039; said:We're not one or two pitchers from contending, we're apparently one or two pitchers from being able to compete with the other NL dregs
Now 1-5 against the Nats this year.
Every team not in first place is always 2 dominant starting pitchers away from contending. Think the '98 Diamondbacks with Schilling and Johnson or the Cubs when they had Wood and Prior. It's just that hard to get 2 guys like that on the same staff. I'd much rather be Jim Lelaynd running Verlander and Bonderman out there every 5th day than any of the other smucks tying their success on the arms of grown men playing a kids game.
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schwab
Donkey Punch Ann Arbor
Bestbuck36;894009; said:
Dmitri Young, Austin Kearns, and Felipe Lopez somewhere are having one helluva laugh. Something like, "Yeah, man, we do suck, but are we worse off now than we were in Cincinnati? I mean there's bad, then there's us, then there's the Reds. Word."
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CookyPuss
Screw Blue
Burn baby burn! Man, no fire sale, but this team is going down in flames. Can't believe Victor Santos still has a fucking job in this league. There was a point where I hopeful that they were starting to put the pieces together for the next couple of years, but those hopes are going up in smoke!
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I wanted to say the same thing Jax but that same old "car wreck theory" keeps making me watch the damage. I think we should sue Bob Castellini and Wayne Krivsky for emotional damages! (Not really joking)
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Bestbuck36;894717; said:
I was at the car wreck syndrome a while back. I shut down MLB.tv today and am officially in football mode. I don't like the negativity that seeps into me from the Reds to taint my enjoyment of tOSU.
Honestly the older I get, the easier it is for me to tolerate the Reds losing. I look at them as my loveable loser team, not one I ever really expect anything from anymore. Sad considering the heights they were at when I was a kid. I think apathy from the die hard sector is something the FO is going to have to deal with sooner or later because they just don't seem capable of putting a winning franchise together.
All that said if they announce WK is gone , that Jocketty, Larussa and Duncan are on the way I'll be excited again. Then I have reason to hope, if WK is here for '08 there is no real reason to hope.
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OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
Dispatch
Nationals 7Reds 3
Nationals throttle another Reds starter
Washington tees off on lefty just called up from Louisville
Friday, August 3, 2007 3:34 AM
By Howard Fendrich
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Pablo Martinez MonsivaisAssociated Press
Taking a throw from Reds center fielder Ryan Freel, catcher David Ross, left, tags out the Nationals' Felipe Lopez trying to score on a single by Ryan Zimmerman in the first inning.
WASHINGTON -- Ryan Zimmerman and the rest of Washington's suddenly potent offense gave Cincinnati starter Phil Dumatrait a rude welcome to the major leagues last night, and the Nationals beat the Reds 7-3 to cap a three-game sweep.
Zimmerman had three hits, drove in three runs and, on defense, made a slick backhanded stab while down on a knee to grab Jeff Conine's high hopper to third base leading off the seventh inning.
Continued...
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OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
Dispatch
Reds 13 | Pirates 4
Belisle finally gets win
Pitcher had gone nearly 10 weeks since last victory
Saturday, August 4, 2007 3:28 AM
By Jim Massie
The Columbus Dispatch
Gene j. puskar | Associated Press
Scott Hatteberg was among four Reds players to homer in a win over Pittsburgh.
CINCINNATI -- The time between his last win May 29 and what happened on a steamy evening last night in PNC Park had to feel like an eternity and then some to Matt Belisle.
On the pitching calendar, 9? weeks and 10 starts separated the Reds right-hander from that win in Houston and the 13-4 victory over the Pittsburgh Pirates.
"It seems like it's been awhile," Belisle said. "I don't know how long it's been. But it has been a little bit. It's great to get it after the skid we've been on. I hope we keep going."
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I can't remember a player going from promising to shouldn't even be in the big's like Todd Coffey. The worst part is he staill has filthy stuff, its all mental.
This organization doesn't stop at plain old failure to develop pitching, they make it worse.
This organization doesn't stop at plain old failure to develop pitching, they make it worse.
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Man, I was coming on here to say the exact same things.
I don't know if I should come out and say this though, but there are some positive things to take from this second half of the season.
1. The Reds players haven't packed it in. They could have and so many teams/players do but they havent.
2. Jared Burton and Bobby Livingston. Even though they should have been on the everyday roster from Spring Training on, they are making the most of the late season opportunities. I believe Burton could be a star is the proper management and opportunities are there. Livingston could still develop but he's a fighter. Move Belisle to the pen as a long reliver and we might have something.
3. Dunn, Hamilton, Griff, Freel and Hopper to start the bigs next season OF, unless some dramatic trade opportunity unfolds (not likely). The production should be there and if not the trade next season happens, if not the offseason, and Bruce makes his way up.
4. Joey Votto should be up now getting his licks in at this level but next season he better be here from the beginning.
5. Jeff Keppinger has been brilliant to say the very least. Keppinger and Phillips in the middle infield for the next 5-10 years would be fine by me.
A lot of things are still very cloudy and some downright pathetic but at least there are a couple of things that seem to be working themselves out.
No matter really the Bucks report this afternoon and tomorrow start our beloved drive to the championship.
I don't know if I should come out and say this though, but there are some positive things to take from this second half of the season.
1. The Reds players haven't packed it in. They could have and so many teams/players do but they havent.
2. Jared Burton and Bobby Livingston. Even though they should have been on the everyday roster from Spring Training on, they are making the most of the late season opportunities. I believe Burton could be a star is the proper management and opportunities are there. Livingston could still develop but he's a fighter. Move Belisle to the pen as a long reliver and we might have something.
3. Dunn, Hamilton, Griff, Freel and Hopper to start the bigs next season OF, unless some dramatic trade opportunity unfolds (not likely). The production should be there and if not the trade next season happens, if not the offseason, and Bruce makes his way up.
4. Joey Votto should be up now getting his licks in at this level but next season he better be here from the beginning.
5. Jeff Keppinger has been brilliant to say the very least. Keppinger and Phillips in the middle infield for the next 5-10 years would be fine by me.
A lot of things are still very cloudy and some downright pathetic but at least there are a couple of things that seem to be working themselves out.
No matter really the Bucks report this afternoon and tomorrow start our beloved drive to the championship.
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This is the kind of article that illustrates why Dunn gets no credit in Cincy. Everyone still to this day goes all gaga over scrappy little guys who have no real talent but hustle ad get dirty. They bitch that Dunn hits "meaningless" HR's, whatever the fuck that means, then when he does what they want they take backhanded swipes at him by praising the no talent career journyman for not hitting HR's.
Unfuckingreal.
The Reds organization, its brainless broadcasting team and 80% of its fans do not deserve Adam Dunn. Their myopic, and just flat wrong, ideas of whats important are a major fundamental reason for the putrid state the franchise is currently in and will stay in untill baseball people with a clue are brought in to run things.
Unfuckingreal.
The Reds organization, its brainless broadcasting team and 80% of its fans do not deserve Adam Dunn. Their myopic, and just flat wrong, ideas of whats important are a major fundamental reason for the putrid state the franchise is currently in and will stay in untill baseball people with a clue are brought in to run things.
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