RB Jaamal Berry (Transfer to Murray State)

[MililaniBuckeye]

Officers noticed a bag of marijuana in the prep star's backseat

He is an 18 year old kid cut him some slack. Don't act like you don't make dumb decisions when you were a teenager.

Not that dumb of a decision, I didn't. I think the dumbest thing out of all of this is that he didn't reach back and stash the weed under the seat right after he stopped and before the cop got to his car...he left it right out in plain view for the cop to see. In fact, it never should've been in plain view anyway. Sorry, but common sense would tell to keep the stuff hidden--glove compartment, under a seat, in the trunk--until I got where I was going.

 

[goblue15]

Not that dumb of a decision, I didn't. I think the dumbest thing out of all of this is that he didn't reach back and stash the weed under the seat right after he stopped and before the cop got to his car...he left it right out in plain view for the cop to see. In fact, it never should've been in plain view anyway. Sorry, but common sense would tell to keep the stuff hidden--glove compartment, under a seat, in the trunk--until I got where I was going.

Agree... If all else fails thats when you start eating it thats what I did.:(

 

[NFBuck]

At least this occured early in the summer giving Jaamal a chance to clear it up before he's due to report to campus. I certainly wish him the best.

 

[TRON 2.0]

Sorry, but common sense would tell to keep the stuff hidden--glove compartment, under a seat, in the trunk--until I got where I was going.

That was my thought as well. Why would you have an ounce of dope just sittin in the back seat?

Anyhow, I believe how the charges turn out determines his future as a Buckeye. Hope the kid makes it up here, but if not i wish him the best.

 

[berryfan]

Arizona v. Gant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This made it a lot tougher (almost impossible) to vehicles searches for things unrelated to the crime at hand.

1) Belton does not authorize a vehicle search incident to a recent occupant's arrest after the arrestee has been secured and cannot access the interior of the vehicle.
2) Circumstances unique to the automobile context justify a search incident to arrest when it is reasonable to believe that evidence of the offense of arrest might be found in the vehicle.

He ran a red light, that was the original offense.

 

[UpNorthBuckeye]

decision time

He's probably an okay kid, and he will probably learn from this, and he will probably be a good player somewhere. But I say he is already showing what he thinks of being an Ohio State football player, and what he thinks of the university... he likes it, but it comes in second to having fun with his "buddies". Buddies who didn't say, wo Jamaal, what are you doing, man?

I say cut him now. Cut him loose, so he really LEARNS a lesson.

If Tressel says, that's okay, come on, we forgive you, then there's not much consequence. The courts will give him some fines and community service and after a year his record will be clean. so no lesson learned, unless there are some consequences.

Treat him the way you would a walk on fifth string punter...

 

[OH10]

Arizona v. Gant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This made it a lot tougher (almost impossible) to vehicles searches for things unrelated to the crime at hand.



He ran a red light, that was the original offense.

That case is rather meaningless. Police will always find a way to search for drugs in vehicles, primarily through canine sniffs and inventory searches following the impoundment of a vehicle.

Not saying I agree with it, but police have almost cart blanche during traffic stops nowadays.

 

[JCOSU86]

Kids make mistakes all the time hopefully he learns from it. I also don't consider an ounce of weed alot, if we were talking about pounds then you might have a serious problem.

Well, it's enough to be a felony in the state in which he lives. I don't know, I'd like for him to be a little smarter than that.

 

[craigblitz]

"Kids make mistakes all the time hopefully he learns from it. I also don't consider an ounce of weed alot, if we were talking about pounds then you might have a serious problem."

Why would the problem be any bigger if he had pounds of weed? Regardless it still implies he is using it and is hanging out with others who are as well. The amount he was busted with is not a factor IMO of what the real issues are.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Why would the problem be any bigger if he had pounds of weed? Regardless it still implies he is using it and is hanging out with others who are as well. The amount he was busted with is not a factor IMO of what the real issues are.

I'd find the prospect of a recruit selling pot even more concerning than using it.

 

[Buckrock]

He's probably an okay kid, and he will probably learn from this, and he will probably be a good player somewhere. But I say he is already showing what he thinks of being an Ohio State football player, and what he thinks of the university... he likes it, but it comes in second to having fun with his "buddies". Buddies who didn't say, wo Jamaal, what are you doing, man?

I say cut him now. Cut him loose, so he really LEARNS a lesson.

If Tressel says, that's okay, come on, we forgive you, then there's not much consequence. The courts will give him some fines and community service and after a year his record will be clean. so no lesson learned, unless there are some consequences.

Treat him the way you would a walk on fifth string punter...

I agree. We dont need the problems.

 

[pnuts34]

He's probably an okay kid, and he will probably learn from this, and he will probably be a good player somewhere. But I say he is already showing what he thinks of being an Ohio State football player, and what he thinks of the university... he likes it, but it comes in second to having fun with his "buddies". Buddies who didn't say, wo Jamaal, what are you doing, man?

I say cut him now. Cut him loose, so he really LEARNS a lesson.

If Tressel says, that's okay, come on, we forgive you, then there's not much consequence. The courts will give him some fines and community service and after a year his record will be clean. so no lesson learned, unless there are some consequences.

Treat him the way you would a walk on fifth string punter...

I don't know if I agree with that sentiment. Are you saying we cut every kid who gets into trouble? I don't think thats a realistic thing to do. Youre dealing with kids, that's essentially what they are, and they're going to make some bad decisions. I'm not saying to coddle him, he should definitely be punished but to throw the kid away I don't think we do that. You can't honestly think that he's the only kid who's smoking pot on the team. Henton wasn't kicked off the team, and he made national headlines for soliciting a hooker, Nate Williams shoplifted, granted these weren't felonies, but you give the kid at least another chance to prove himself, not just on the field but his character and in the classroom too. Some kids are more immature than others and just need a lesson, and who knows maybe this will scare Berry straight and he'll be on the straight and narrow from now on.

 

[MaxBuck]

I think (and this is just me) all this pontificating on whether Jaamal Berry should or should not keep his schollie is pointless and possibly damaging.

The coaching staff will make whatever decision they see fit, and they have shown excellent judgment in the past. The commentary by people here has little to do with Buckeye football, and everything to do with their opinions on crime, consequences and punishment. This kind of thing belongs in a different forum IMO.

 

[Pimpinnati]

He's probably an okay kid, and he will probably learn from this, and he will probably be a good player somewhere. But I say he is already showing what he thinks of being an Ohio State football player, and what he thinks of the university... he likes it, but it comes in second to having fun with his "buddies". Buddies who didn't say, wo Jamaal, what are you doing, man?

I say cut him now. Cut him loose, so he really LEARNS a lesson.

If Tressel says, that's okay, come on, we forgive you, then there's not much consequence. The courts will give him some fines and community service and after a year his record will be clean. so no lesson learned, unless there are some consequences.

Treat him the way you would a walk on fifth string punter...

Couldn't disagree more. Let's throw the baby out with the bath water.

What a great lesson in life. Make a mistake and you're finished. Because all 18 year old boys should have impeccable decision making skills. (That's sarcasm btw)

And I am sure you never made a mistake you regretted in your youth...

By your logic we should have thrown Troy Smith out on his butt so he could learn a lesson.

If this was a systemic problem or more similar behavior persists then perhaps we should revisit his inclusion on the roster. But to suggest a 1 strike policy shows zero compassion. Thankfully Jim Tressel isn't a zero compassion kinda guy. In fact I would say he's just the opposite.

 

[UpNorthBuckeye]

I still say cut him loose. One reason I haven't mentioned yet is this: you have to get (or keep) control of your program.

The best thing that could come out of cutting him loose would be the message it sends to the other 150 (or however many) associated with the team.

Now I don't think Alabama is the world's worst place, but sportswriters are jumping all over them now, because of kids getting free BOOKS.

If Tressel lets Berry skate, then it's someone else, someone else, and they bring up the stuff that happened last year, and before you know it we are being called a "program out of control". that's what pains me.

Jaamal could make it somewhere else. If we are concerned about the kid, then this is a good lesson. This is good for him. Not throwing the baby out with the bath water, we are just teaching him rules are rules, not suggestions.

What about the 100+ kids who are keeping their noses clean?

So sure, I made HUNDREDS of mistakes when I was young, and the times I learned lessons were when I caught trouble for what I did, not when I was allowed to skate by.