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RB Erik Haw (official thread)

didnt haw say that he ran a 4.28 40???

that is blazing fast, and if he really is 215 lbs, then he has to have a ton of potential. i hope he sees the field alot this saturday.

You all remember Jerry Westbrooks? 6ft 230lbs ran a blazing 40 time and played for a short time in the NFL. An absolute physical specimine who could never even earn a lot of carries in his OSU career, let alone start.

Mr. Haw might want to take note of that particular bit of not too distant history.
 
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The thing that impressed me most about Wells aside from the near touchdown run, was the way he picked up a lineman on teddy's TD catch. He did enough to let Todd step up and throw a strike to Teddy. Not bad for a frosh in his first collegiate game.
 
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The O-zone has a piece on Haw in "Columns and Features" that answers some questions:

Football
Haw Odd Man Out in OSU Backfield For Now
By John Porentas

All through spring practice and fall camp the big story at tailback was the tight competition for playing time between Antonio Pittman and Eric Haw. Two games into the season, it has been no contest. Pittman is getting the carries, and Haw is getting plenty of rest on game day. Pittman has clearly separated himself in a big way from Haw.

OSU running back coach Dick Tressel

"He's definitely a year ahead of where he was at this time last year," said Ohio State running backs coach Dick Tressel.

"Typically you expect their greatest jump between their first year and second year.

"I think(in Pittman's case) it's physical confidence, I think he has a physical confidence that he didn't have at this time a year ago.

"He's not especially faster or quicker or anything like that, but that confidence and a little bit bigger and stronger, a year older, a year more mature, so that puts him in a position to utilize his talents much more effectively now."

That's part of the story. The other part is that Pittman simply got a head start on Haw last year when Pittman got on the field as a true freshman while Haw was redshirted. That left Haw without any game experience coming into this season, a factor that has helped keep Haw very much behind Pittman on the depth chart.

Antonio Pittman

"The thing with Eric is that we had a bunch of senior, older backs last year, and we were able to mix Antonio Pitman in with those guys, so that moved him a little further ahead on the whole developmental process," said Tressel.

"That added to the challenge for Eric to become, his goal I'm sure, the starting tailback at Ohio State."

Adding to Haw's uphill battle was the decision to juggle some personnel in the OSU backfield.

"The next thing was the move of Schnittker from being a part-time tailback and part-time fullback to a full-time tailback. Now the reps are getting sliced up and you can only have so-many guys really know everything that's going on with all the pass protections and carrying the ball and all those kinds of things," said Tressel.

Eric Haw

That put Haw at least three rungs down on the OSU tailback depth chart. Compounding Haw's problems is the arrival of Maurice Wells on campus.

"Maurice is a little different from any of those other guys," said Tressel.

"He's a quick-start, quick-change of directions guy. If we have some situations where that's the change of pace that you need, he's different than the other guys. Wells is the most different. Eric is a little bit more like the other two," said Tressel.

That makes Haw currently the last man whose name will be called for duty in the OSU backfield this fall. Tressel says he's talked to Haw about the situation.

"I sat down and talked to him about a week ago and said 'OK, here we go, you've only got 50 games left in your career, here we go,' said Tressel.

Tressel is hoping Haw will take it upon himself to improve enough to get back into the mix.

"He's still got four whole seasons and I hope he approaches it that way. This past week he spent some time carrying the ball on scout team and some with us, and maybe it was his best week of practice thus far. That's what he has to do if he wants to steal some of those reps and some of those carries,'" Tressel said.
 
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Sorry, but if he can't take carries away from Schnittker he isn't going to see the field much at Ohio State.

I like Brandon, but come on. Haw is 210-215 lbs with serious speed and they feel the need to ask Brandon to lose weight so he can play tailback?

Something is seriously wrong with that picture. I thought he might have been in the doghouse, but it sounds like he just isn't good enough to challenge for any kind of serious playing time.
 
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Something is seriously wrong with that picture. I thought he might have been in the doghouse, but it sounds like he just isn't good enough to challenge for any kind of serious playing time.

He has the talent, but has not shown the practice habits he needs to, up to this point.

Pay attention to this quote by Coach T...

This past week he spent some time carrying the ball on scout team and some with us, and maybe it was his best week of practice thus far. That's what he has to do if he wants to steal some of those reps and some of those carries,'"
 
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I'm beginning to wonder if there aren't some personality conflicts among the coaches and players. It sounds like Haw is a little too independent for the two Tressel's taste, ala Troy Smith. If they are demoting him because he isn't obsequious enough, I say shame on them.
 
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Haw has potential, but we'll have to wait and see if it ever translates into anything. I see him getting some carries late in his career, but not many before then.
2005 - Pittman is fantastic, Schnittker is a solid blocker, and Wells showed he can pick up a blitz (Ted Ginn's TD pass, he blocked a lineman).
2006 - Pittman, CWells, MWells, Haw? Haw should get some carries here, but he's gonna have to be extremely impressive to beat out Pitt & Chris. Maurice won't be competition as he's a different type of RB.
 
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I'm beginning to wonder if there aren't some personality conflicts among the coaches and players. It sounds like Haw is a little too independent for the two Tressel's taste, ala Troy Smith. If they are demoting him because he isn't obsequious enough, I say shame on them.
He could have been demoted b/c he's not good enough. Most buckeye fans weren't sure Pittman would be that great this year, hence why we talked about Haw. And most thought he'd be #2 ahead of Schnittker.

He has a lot of talent, but has to face one of the best defenses in america in practice. Schnittker is in his 5th year, and Pittman got a brutal crash course in CFB game speed last year. Haw might not be ready yet.
 
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Grad.....hit it right on the nail....

I posted this earlier...

He has the talent, but has not shown the practice habits he needs to, up to this point.

Pay attention to this quote by Coach T...


Quote:
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I'm beginning to wonder if there aren't some personality conflicts among the coaches and players. It sounds like Haw is a little too independent for the two Tressel's taste, ala Troy Smith. If they are demoting him because he isn't obsequious enough, I say shame on them.

When a coach tells you that you need to work harder in practice, it's not a matter of "obsequiousness"...it's a matter of work effort. Really, that's a dumb comment.

Are you taking Haw's arrest as a sign of "independence"? If so, we sure have had a lot of "independent" players at OSU over the years. Maybe we could do with a little less "independence" and a little more rule following, or as you call it: "obsequiousness". :shake:
 
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I don't have any stake in the "obsequious" theory. It could be that JT is just ultra cautious. NTL, he has kept good players sitting the pine before, e.g. Krenzel for Bellisari, Ginn in 2004. I would think Ginn could have learned a couple plays by the first game in 2004. :)
 
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