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RB Brandon "Zoom" Saine (official thread)

IronBuckI;1134794; said:
So, you're making the prediction that, unless there is an unexpected meltdown, the sophomore player will not pass the senior player on the depth chart? Not even by, say, the YSU game?

MililaniBuckeye;1135077; said:
That's what I'm saying. Maybe by the season's end Mo and Saine will be 2A and 2B, but JT won't demote Mo unless Mo goes to crap...
I think that I must've clicked on the wrong thread when I posted that. I could've sworn that I was in the QB discussion thread...comparing Boeckman and Henton.
 
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jimotis4heisman;1135586; said:
nope mili has todd getting benched for henton by ysu.

backup tb and starting qb are wildly different animals. the roles these two persons are expected to fill are about as different as it gets.

in fact, 06 is about as perfect an example of this as you will ever find. you had pittman as the starter, mow as the #2 tb, and beanie as the #3. if ever there was a prototypical big 10 back and more, its beanie. a combination of size, speed, vision, shiftyness, and power the likes of which i have never seen before. and yet, little mow.... STILL the #2 back. as much as he played and as good as he looked, beanie couldn't even take the #2 spot from mow. theres a reason for that. the #2 back doesn't have to be the perfect back to fit the offense. he doesn't have to be a big 10 type of back. in fact, he doesn't even have to be the guy who would start if the #1 guy goes down.

mow brings a heck of a lot to the table. great speed, moves, vision, blocking ability, and a lot of intelligence. but he isn't an every down big 10 back. he's not going to go 30 carries against wisky or scum. its just not going to happen. he's not that kind of back. but then, he doesn't have to be in order to be the perfect #2 tb.

such allowances don't exist for the #1 qb. your either the guy or your not.
 
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martinss01;1135641; said:
backup tb and starting qb are wildly different animals. the roles these two persons are expected to fill are about as different as it gets.

in fact, 06 is about as perfect an example of this as you will ever find. you had pittman as the starter, mow as the #2 tb, and beanie as the #3. if ever there was a prototypical big 10 back and more, its beanie. a combination of size, speed, vision, shiftyness, and power the likes of which i have never seen before. and yet, little mow.... STILL the #2 back. as much as he played and as good as he looked, beanie couldn't even take the #2 spot from mow. theres a reason for that. the #2 back doesn't have to be the perfect back to fit the offense. he doesn't have to be a big 10 type of back. in fact, he doesn't even have to be the guy who would start if the #1 guy goes down.

mow brings a heck of a lot to the table. great speed, moves, vision, blocking ability, and a lot of intelligence. but he isn't an every down big 10 back. he's not going to go 30 carries against wisky or scum. its just not going to happen. he's not that kind of back. but then, he doesn't have to be in order to be the perfect #2 tb.

such allowances don't exist for the #1 qb. your either the guy or your not.
Mo may have been the #2 back in 06 for the majority of the season, but late in the year Beanie took that job from him.

Just look at the carry totals for the 2nd half of the year for Beanie, and for Mowells.

Not to mention that by the time the year was over, Beanie had double the amount of carries MoWells did.
 
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I like it. I'm no expert running backs coach, but it seemed to me Brandon was a bit overwhelmed by 1) transition to D1 ball, and 2) the knee injury and the subsequent surgery and recovery process. He'll be a good one this year.

Actually, I really like what our offense in a couple years could look like with Saine/Herron/Thomas/Pryor. Talk about giving a defense different looks... goodness. There's a lot of ways that ball is going with all those guys in the backfield.
 
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I thought Brandon was our big play threat last year and it was a darn shame to see him get hurt, because I think he would have been able to contribute more at the end of the year. I am looking for Zoom to big a huge part of our offense this year.
 
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rocketman;1138487; said:
I like it. I'm no expert running backs coach, but it seemed to me Brandon was a bit overwhelmed by 1) transition to D1 ball, and 2) the knee injury and the subsequent surgery and recovery process. He'll be a good one this year.

Actually, I really like what our offense in a couple years could look like with Saine/Herron/Thomas/Pryor. Talk about giving a defense different looks... goodness. There's a lot of ways that ball is going with all those guys in the backfield.

Well said. With these weapons the Offense should be able to mix it up pretty well and keep Defenses off balance.
 
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rocketman;1138487; said:
I like it. I'm no expert running backs coach, but it seemed to me Brandon was a bit overwhelmed by 1) transition to D1 ball, and 2) the knee injury and the subsequent surgery and recovery process. He'll be a good one this year.

Actually, I think he looked great in his games before gtting the surgery and didn't look phased by "D1" ball at all...he was very confident and ran over people. He seemed to be a very different runner after getting the scope job, though.
 
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RB07OSU;1138490; said:
I thought Brandon was our big play threat last year and it was a darn shame to see him get hurt, because I think he would have been able to contribute more at the end of the year. I am looking for Zoom to big a huge part of our offense this year.

Zoom can provide that Teddy Ginn element to the game. His pass catching ability surprised us last year and yet he's still a running threat out of the backfield or in the slot. With Wells and Herron also in the backfield he may find himself with 400 or 500 yards in the receiving game. Looking forward to some big games for him
 
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He seemed to be a very different runner after getting the scope job, though.

I agree 100%. He was not the same at all. More timid and just didn't seem to have the extra gear, who can blame him. After an injury like that it takes a while to get mentally ready again to assure yourself everything is healed.
 
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Saine's power, extra gear make Tressel think of Byars

By Doug Harris
Staff Writer

Sunday, April 13, 2008
COLUMBUS ? Brandon Saine has the speed to do damage in open spaces, and the Ohio State running back might make defenders fret this season even when he's in a crowd.
The 6-foot-1, 220-pound sophomore-to-be from Piqua ripped off a 23-yard touchdown run in an intrasquad scrimmage against the first-string defense Saturday, April 12, dragging defenders on his way to the end zone.


"He's got a gear," coach Jim Tressel said. "And he's powerful. ... Sometimes, it's a little like when Keith Byars was here, there'd be people who thought he wasn't going anywhere, and all of a sudden he was running people over. When Brandon sees a crease or sees the goal line or sees some yards to be had, he's pretty special."
Saine also made a diving first-down reception in the scrimmage. "He continues to get more comfortable with a lot of different things we're asking him to do," Tressel said. "He's going to be an excellent receiver as well as an excellent back."
Redshirt freshman Daniel "Boom" Herron is another tailback taking advantage of increased opportunities with star Chris Wells sitting out contact drills during spring practice because of wrist surgery.



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Run straight? Saine can do that and a whole lot more


By Kyle Nagel
Staff Writer

Sunday, April 13, 2008

COLUMBUS ? We didn't even bring up Brandon Saine. Jim Tressel did.
After the Ohio State football team went through a chilly scrimmage Saturday morning, April 12 ? some joked the only reason the coach opened it to the media was because he knew we would shiver ? Tressel discussed its highlights. First among his player comments was Saine, the former Ohio Mr. Football from Piqua High School.


Some might be surprised to hear Tressel praise Saine because the burner who still holds the state's record in the 100 meters didn't have the jaw-dropping plays many expected after he used his considerable size and speed to whet imaginations with high school highlights.
Some felt coming out of high school that Saine lacked the natural running back instincts to star in the Big Ten. Indeed. He's much more useful than that.
That was Tressel's message Saturday when asked further about Saine, that he and the coaches have been impressed with his performance considering all they ask him to do. Block. Catch passes. Outrun defenders. Run over people.
This is a 6-foot-1, 217-pound player who should do much more than just take a handoff and find a hole. He's a decoy, a game-breaker, a selfless teammate, a natural athlete if there ever was one.
What he's not, yet, is a highlight reel. But, with three years to go.



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