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QB1 Will Howard (Official Thread)

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If he can’t throw the deep ball…..and it sure looks that way……then elite teams will eventually figure this out and start to constrict the short stuff. This will make it harder and harder to put up big yards and move the chains. Accuracy is important. But the ability to take the top off is also important vs elite competition
 
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His worst play wasn't the last play that was just a cock hair of working out. It was the first play of the drive where he just went down for a 10 yard loss and the clock didn't stop. Give back those yards or that time, and we have a winning kick.

We really did need to throw deep more but I'm not sure he had time to set that often after Jimmy went down.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
His worst play wasn't the last play that was just a cock hair of working out. It was the first play of the drive where he just went down for a 10 yard loss and the clock didn't stop. Give back those yards or that time, and we have a winning kick.

We really did need to throw deep more but I'm not sure he had time to set that often after Jimmy went down.
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Agreed. I hope he isn't getting too much hate mail. Is that a thing, anymore? Hate messages in social media... Anyway, I agree. It took about 40 seconds to move the first 10 yards.
Also, I know this is how the rules are written, but it's kinda BS. And I've whined about it for a while. With about 10 seconds to go, and the ball is where it is, we know there's time for 2-3 plays. Why doesn't the defense just cheat intentionally, knowing that the clock doesn't get reset? And I'm not saying Oregon did this intentionally. But they had 12 guys on the field. The play was run and 4 seconds came off. Why not put 50 guys on the field in that case? You know you're going to give up 5 yards on the penalty, but the yards aren't worth the time on the clock. Maybe do that twice. The game can't end with that penalty, but you can drain the clock with it. Instead of giving the other team 2-3 plays to win, knock that down to 1 play.
I vote that with less than 30 seconds (maybe 60 seconds?) the team that gets the benefit of the penalty yardage should get to choose if the time gets reset to where it was before that play. It sure would have been nice to have those 4 seconds added to the clock before that last play...
 
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Zurp said:
Agreed. I hope he isn't getting too much hate mail. Is that a thing, anymore? Hate messages in social media... Anyway, I agree. It took about 40 seconds to move the first 10 yards.
Also, I know this is how the rules are written, but it's kinda BS. And I've whined about it for a while. With about 10 seconds to go, and the ball is where it is, we know there's time for 2-3 plays. Why doesn't the defense just cheat intentionally, knowing that the clock doesn't get reset? And I'm not saying Oregon did this intentionally. But they had 12 guys on the field. The play was run and 4 seconds came off. Why not put 50 guys on the field in that case? You know you're going to give up 5 yards on the penalty, but the yards aren't worth the time on the clock. Maybe do that twice. The game can't end with that penalty, but you can drain the clock with it. Instead of giving the other team 2-3 plays to win, knock that down to 1 play.
I vote that with less than 30 seconds (maybe 60 seconds?) the team that gets the benefit of the penalty yardage should get to choose if the time gets reset to where it was before that play. It sure would have been nice to have those 4 seconds added to the clock before that last play...
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Lanning confirmed today that it was done intentionally. It's a pretty rare set of circumstances that would trigger abuse of this rule, but it is a rule that should be adjusted simply because it's easy to come to an agreement on what the change should be. It's unfortunate that a bad call and a savvy rule exploitation contributed to the loss, but the Buckeyes should have put themselves in a better position.
 
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GaTechBuckeye said:
Lanning confirmed today that it was done intentionally. It's a pretty rare set of circumstances that would trigger abuse of this rule, but it is a rule that should be adjusted simply because it's easy to come to an agreement on what the change should be. It's unfortunate that a bad call and a savvy rule exploitation contributed to the loss, but the Buckeyes should have put themselves in a better position.
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I agree with your last statement 100%. And I tip my hat (if I were wearing a hat, that is) to him for exploiting that. I'm not happy he did, but good on him to do that to his advantage.
 
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heisman said:
Can't do any better than this my friends...

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He could have hit Gee Scott on a crossing route with about 30 seconds left, instead of throwing deep, and we‘d probably be having a much different discussion about him and about Ryan Day for the last 2 and a half days.

But he did throw for 300 and have no turnovers in a tough road environment, so that was a good performance overall that was ruined by a drive that came up short due to bad clock management and a critical OPI penalty..
 
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BB73 said:
He could have hit Gee Scott on a crossing route with about 30 seconds left, instead of throwing deep, and we‘d probably be having a much different discussion about him and about Ryan Day for the last 2 and a half days.

But he did throw for 300 and have no turnovers in a tough road environment, so that was a good performance overall that was ruined by a drive that came up short due to bad clock management and a critical OPI penalty..
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Nah, if you strike out in the bottom of the ninth in a 9-8 loss after hitting a pair of grand slams, that last at bat didn't ruin your performance. The poor pitching (defense) shouldn’t have required you to bat in the bottom of the ninth in the first place.
 
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heisman said:
Nah, if you strike out in the bottom of the ninth in a 9-8 loss after hitting a pair of grand slams, that last at bat didn't ruin your performance. The poor pitching (defense) shouldn’t have required you to bat in the bottom of the ninth in the first place.
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Well, if you want to use baseball analogies, the effectiveness of the closer in the 9th inning is critical in winning games. Just like the performance of a QB in the 2-minute drill, crunch time effectiveness is a major factor in wins and losses - there’s a reason the Yankees didn’t trot out Mariano Rivera in the 4th or 5th inning!
 
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BB73 said:
Well, if you want to use baseball analogies, the effectiveness of the closer in the 9th inning is critical in winning games. Just like the performance of a QB in the 2-minute drill, crunch time effectiveness is a major factor in wins and losses - there’s a reason the Yankees didn’t trot out Mariano Rivera in the 4th or 5th inning!
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Will Howard didn’t come out of the bullpen in the bottom of the ninth. If you want a pitching comparison, it’s more like he lost a complete game shutout 1-0, because he gave up an unearned run in the bottom of the ninth.
 
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