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QB1 Julian Sayin (National Champion)

Off topic, but in my younger years in the 70s, the PBA Nationals were held every year at Imperial Lanes in Toledo. I was a damn good bowler in High School and several local leagues after I graduated. I bowled in the Pro Am several times and got to meet and bowl with guys like Dick Weber, Earl Anthony, Mark Roth and others. The Pro Am was always on Friday with the televised finals on Saturday. One year I found myself sitting at the Imperial Lanes bar with Schenkele, Mark Roth and Dick Weber. What a bunch of characters! Had one hell of a time.
That's awesome. I did a bit of league bowling, but just once a week and never really worked at. Topped out at around a 195 average on a house shot (about 160 when I tried a league with pro oil patterns), which of course was much, much less impressive in the early 2000s than it would have been back in the 70s. One of my random roommates freshman year in Lincoln Tower was from Toledo and was a serious bowler, although we had to check him when he tried to make the insane claim that bowling is harder than golf.
 
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That's awesome. I did a bit of league bowling, but just once a week and never really worked at. Topped out at around a 195 average on a house shot (about 160 when I tried a league with pro oil patterns), which of course was much, much less impressive in the early 2000s than it would have been back in the 70s. One of my random roommates freshman year in Lincoln Tower was from Toledo and was a serious bowler, although we had to check him when he tried to make the insane claim that bowling is harder than golf.
Also forgot to mention Schenkele's TV sidekick Nelson Burton Jr. ( who at the time still competed on the tour, just rarely made the televised finals) Strictly a pro however. Never indulged in the tour high jinks.
 
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Off topic, but in my younger years in the 70s, the PBA Nationals were held every year at Imperial Lanes in Toledo. I was a damn good bowler in High School and several local leagues after I graduated. I bowled in the Pro Am several times and got to meet and bowl with guys like Dick Weber, Earl Anthony, Mark Roth and others. The Pro Am was always on Friday with the televised finals on Saturday. One year I found myself sitting at the Imperial Lanes bar with Schenkele, Mark Roth and Dick Weber. What a bunch of characters! Had one hell of a time.
Imperial Lanes was my go to when younger. You can go back to the location and have your knee replaced now if needed(Promedica).
 
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Imperial Lanes was my go to when younger. You can go back to the location and have your knee replaced now if needed(Promedica)
Growing up in Maumee and attending Maumee schools, Southwyck Lanes and Timbers in Maumee is where I spent most of my time. Imperial always had the best lanes in the Toledo area however. Loved going there when I had the chance. Although a small house ( 16 lanes) Timbers always had excellent conditions too. It was also "Home House" for my High School team and I was also in a Saturday morning league there.
 
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ESPN misses the mark with where they ranked Ohio State’s Julian Sayin in their college football QB rankings

Buckeye Nation certainly won’t approve of the reasoning for this ranking.

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Ryan Day’s success with the quarterback position has been one of his best skills as the Ohio State Buckeyes head coach. Justin Fields and C.J. Stroud were both first-round picks and when things didn’t work out the best with Kyle McCord, the fix was Will Howard and he helped lead the Buckeyes to a National Championship. In 2025, things are well on their way to being successful with Julian Sayin as the guy.

Sayin just made his first road start at Washington and was a cool 22-of-28 passing with two touchdowns and no turnovers. It was a big step for the first-year starter who looks like the real deal for the Buckeyes. In the latest college football quarterback rankings at ESPN, Sayin comes in at No. 11 with a whopping four Big Ten quarterbacks ahead of him.

ESPN’s explanation of where Julian Sayin ranks is basically penalizing the Buckeyes for being good

“It’s almost impossible to grade Sayin on the same scale as everyone else. He leads the nation with a 79% completion rate, he has taken only two sacks and he’s third in success rate. He’s keeping the trains on time beautifully. But he’s also throwing mostly short passes to extremely talented receivers, and his defense has yet to allow double-digit points in a game.” – Bill Connelly, ESPN

USC’s Jayden Maiava, Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza, Oregon’s Dante Moore, and Washington’s Demond Williams Jr. are all ranked above Sayin. Ryan Day has been open and loud that the Buckeyes are purposely slowing down the game as much as they can and as a result, they’re running the least amount of offensive plays a game they have since he’s been here. Sayin answered the call in his first career start against the Texas Longhorns and is completing an outstanding 79 percent of his passes this year.



In four games played, Sayin is 78-of-99 passing for 987 yards, 10 touchdowns, and three interceptions. None of the interceptions have been very hurtful for the Buckeyes and one came against Grambling State in a 70-0 win when Sayin threw a ball that the DB simply made a good jump on. Ohio State has done a great job of protecting its quarterback and he has been sacked just two times. A lot of that has to do with his turbo quick release which you don’t often find.

Pointing out that Sayin is throwing to talented receivers shouldn’t be a knock. Ohio State has not gone deep much by plan and they’ll open it up more as the season goes on and they get into the postseason just like they did last year. Don’t expect Sayin to be ranked No. 11 if these rankings are revisited.
 
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It’s almost impossible to grade Sayin on the same scale as everyone else. He leads the nation with a 79% completion rate, he has taken only two sacks and he’s third in success rate. He’s keeping the trains on time beautifully. But he’s also throwing mostly short passes to extremely talented receivers, and his defense has yet to allow double-digit points in a game.” – Bill Connelly, ESPN

This was the argument we would have 40+ years ago as a school kid about Montana vs Marino.

Montana was just throwing short passes to elite WR's, Marino was the whole team etc etc etc.
 
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This was the argument we would have 40+ years ago as a school kid about Montana vs Marino.

Montana was just throwing short passes to elite WR's, Marino was the whole team etc etc etc.
I remember an argument with a buddy who said Emmitt Smith didn't deserve the rushing record because he played for a team that had receivers and a good quarterback. He was a Bears fan and thought Payton should get to keep his record.
 
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