QB1 Julian Sayin (All B1G, B1G Frosh of Year, All American, National Frosh of Year, National Champion)

[Tanner]

Nah, it wasn't about being white. He's a small pocket passer who depends on accuracy. He is not similar to Mayfield.

 

[heisman]

I have never doubted Day when it comes to QB but I’m starting to.

Hopefully with time to prepare to come in it looks a lot better in two weeks.

If Fahey is under center in two weeks running “the offense”

 

[1926Buckeyes]

The amount of Bucks fans that called him Drew Brees was always going to be a let down of their own making.

The comparisons between Breesy & Sayin begin and end at 6ft + White. Same thing people said about Baker Mayfield. Goes to show just
how skin deep a lot of people see players ( I don't mean that in a racist connotation, but more of a gravitation)

What about Stu Brees?

Btw, if you’re comfortable saying, were you previously an NFL coach/analyst?

 

[Thump]

Oh, Day is definitely hitting the portal. I think that is a forgone conclusion at this point.

This.

 

[Thump]

If I had to guess, goal is to have Julian back for playoffs unless Fahey is surprisingly on a heater.

 

[shetuck]

I defined the hard set as Texas x2, IU x 2 and Miami vs everyone else. This is what Chat gave me so forgive me if any errors.

Passing statistic	Hard set	Everyone else
Games	5	16
Completions	88	344
Attempts	145	438
Completion %	60.7%	78.5%
Passing yards	1,184	4,433
Yards/game	236.8	277.1
Yards/attempt	8.17	10.12
Touchdowns	6	45
Interceptions	6	6
NCAA passer rating	134.7	194.7

What doesn’t show up in there directly is how the “Hard Set” was able to canvas J Smith and to limit his production. I’m not saying it’s all explained by that but maybe more about Sayin not being able to use his many other receiver options when he’s under pressure or when his first read gets taken away.

 

[Gunlife]

What doesn’t show up in there directly is how the “Hard Set” was able to canvas J Smith and to limit his production. I’m not saying it’s all explained by that but maybe more about Sayin not being able to use his many other receiver options when he’s under pressure or when his first read gets taken away.

They ran a ton of plays where his first read wasn't 4, as 4 was a decoy. He just kept air mailing them.

I said it during the game. It was the worst qb performance on both sides that I have seen in division 1 cfb in years.

 

[Jaxbuck]

What doesn’t show up in there directly is how the “Hard Set” was able to canvas J Smith and to limit his production. I’m not saying it’s all explained by that but maybe more about Sayin not being able to use his many other receiver options when he’s under pressure or when his first read gets taken away.

For sure. That all goes into it. He gets sped up and misses the wide open guys when teams double and triple Smith.

End result is when teams can disrupt him, he is a different QB and 60% completion/8 YPA and a 50/50 TD/INT isn’t really anything special.

I don’t see how one can like the odds of it getting better next year without the human tell in #4 making defenses have to over compensate for his threat.

 

[osuvictory1]

If I had to guess, goal is to have Julian back for playoffs unless Fahey is surprisingly on a heater.

Day up front at least did not sound in despair about Fahey in the presser.

He said that when Fahey came in the game, it was going too fast, and that after a couple drives he believed the game would slow down for him and he would be ok.

Luke Montgomery said he has "moxie," which we have seen with the scrambling and nice spiraling.

TSC will also probably get practice reps this week.

I will be ok if Day has a good problem, and Fahey shines this next month.

 

[Jagdaddy]

They ran a ton of plays where his first read wasn't 4, as 4 was a decoy. He just kept air mailing them.

I said it during the game. It was the worst qb performance on both sides that I have seen in division 1 cfb in years.

Clearly you haven’t seen a Texas A & M game.

 

[Buckeneye]

Btw, if you’re comfortable saying, were you previously an NFL coach/analyst?

NFL level? No.

 

[shetuck]

They ran a ton of plays where his first read wasn't 4, as 4 was a decoy. He just kept air mailing them.

I said it during the game. It was the worst qb performance on both sides that I have seen in division 1 cfb in years.

Two different things.

I didn't say JJ was *always* his first read. Is he 70% / 80% of the time? Probably. But not 100%.

I was saying that when teams jam up Sayin's first read, he get shaky and unsure. That's the point I was trying to make. I only brought JJ in to say there was probably something different about how the "Hard Set" did in the secondary. They were mayb trying to force Sayin to show his purported ability to process things very quickly.

There are plenty of times, and we saw it during the Maryland and Indiana games, when JJ isn't Sayin's first read and his first read is a no-go, Sayin forces it to JJ. Sometimes the jump ball to JJ works. We all like those THTGDB odds. In triple coverage, it doesn't work not as well, especially when Sayin is rushed and stuck in the pocket and JJ is not getting PI calls.

EDIT: And re the "airmailing"... I'm convinced that there was something going on with his shoulder before the hit that actually took him out of the game. Totally uncharacteristic throws for him. Might also explain the plays where he chose to take a sack rather than the easy available option to throw the ball away. I think his shoulder was REALLY hurting him.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

I just dont understand what happened to his accuracy. Mid way through last season he was like Drew Brees. Now he has like 5 Bauserman level throws a game

I have speculated that the extra weight, and assuming muscle, he put on in the offseason has effected his touch. He doesn't know how to use his new strength. Either that or Indiana and Miami broke him last year.

 

[Gunlife]

EDIT: And re the "airmailing"... I'm convinced that there was something going on with his shoulder before the hit that actually took him out of the game. Totally uncharacteristic throws for him. Might also explain the plays where he chose to take a sack rather than the easy available option to throw the ball away. I think his shoulder was REALLY hurting him.

If he was hurt earlier on then that sucks. This was his worst game by far, but he hasn't been as accurate as we have been used too for several weeks. Maybe he tweaked something late in the Iowa game? I don't know, but I hope he makes a quick and full recovery.

I also think in this system, with these receivers (Henry is coming on strong) that Fahey is going to be better than people think. I hate that his first start is USC, probably at night, but this is why you come to OSU.

 

[shetuck]

If he was hurt earlier on then that sucks. This was his worst game by far, but he hasn't been as accurate as we have been used too for several weeks. Maybe he tweaked something late in the Iowa game? I don't know, but I hope he makes a quick and full recovery.

I also think in this system, with these receivers (Henry is coming on strong) that Fahey is going to be better than people think. I hate that his first start is USC, probably at night, but this is why you come to OSU.

Fields and Stroud both played hurt. Maybe it's a Day thing, keeping his QBs in there trusting that they'll manage through it, until they can't.

Same happened with Will Howard. I can't remember which game. Maybe Oregon 1?