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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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MaxBuck said:
No, what I saw was a superstar who showed excellent judgment in avoiding the potential for injury that might completely fuck up his team's season.
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The reasons his last two bcs bowl performances were so special was because they were basically the only time he ever planted and cut inside when he was headed outside. The Arkansas fumble comes to mind as do a number of Oregon scrambles. Unlike almost every other scramble, he didn't bounce and head for the sideline where the small dbs were waiting.

It is the reason he had so few gamebreaking long runs despite the speed to outrun entire NFL defenses (which he has done multiple times in the league ).

There were advantages to his avoidance of contact but the pattern was undeniable. Gray did not show that pattern at Minnesota.
 
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TheStoicPaisano said:
Gray lost his job to Adam Weber, of all people. He had a couple years in college to get ready for the pounding the NFL would give him. He's also a lot more stout than Pryor. Other than being black one-time quarterbacks, the two have nothing in common.
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Even when they were recruits, I always thought of Gray as kind of a poor man's Pryor, being the big-time dual threats from the midwest who both went to B1G schools. Obviously he was even less suited to being an elite QB than TP, and Gray may be more of an H-back in this (probably brief) stint with the Bills, but in general it's a pretty similar model for what many have suggested for Pryor: take on a new position and let that size and athleticism take care of the rest.
 
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Onebuckfan said:
SUPERSTAR is thrown around a lot now days..I didn't see a Heisman or an All American. He was a SUPERSTAR by the recruiting services!
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Don't be ridiculous.

Pryor had 8,365 total yards (214.5 per game) and 76 total touchdowns (2 per game). His record as a starting quarterback was 31-4, with wins in two BCS bowls. He was a SUPERSTAR.

BTW, you can add Braxton Miller, Beanie Wells, Carlos Hyde, and Santonio Holmes to your list of bums who were never named All Americans.
 
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MaxBuck said:
No, what I saw was a superstar who showed excellent judgment in avoiding the potential for injury that might completely fuck up his team's season.
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It is truly ironic that any Ohio State fan would be complaining about his team's quarterback avoiding contact, what with Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett both out with injuries, and the Buckeyes' season resting on the very inexperienced shoulders of third-stringer Cardale Jones.

And for the record, I remember Pryor employing a pretty mean stiff-arm, which seems to be the better way to initiate contact (albeit far less macho) than lowering the shoulder.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Don't be ridiculous.

Pryor had 8,365 total yards (214.5 per game) and 76 total touchdowns (2 per game). His record as a starting quarterback was 31-4, with wins in two BCS bowls. He was a SUPERSTAR.

BTW, you can add Braxton Miller, Beanie Wells, Carlos Hyde, and Santonio Holmes to your list of bums who were never named All Americans.
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Those are great players but tOSU SUPERSTARS I have seen in my life time is a short list:Jack Tatum, Archie Griffin, Eddie George Orlando Pace Chris Spielman And Troy Smith. A hair below Andy Katzenmoyer. I just think SUPERSTAR is handed out to easily. I also think a lot of Hall of Famers are frauds..its not the Hall of the very good its for the legends of the game but that's just me. All the players you mentioned I love and could add many more they are just not SUPERSTARS>
 
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TheStoicPaisano said:
Gray lost his job to Adam Weber, of all people. He had a couple years in college to get ready for the pounding the NFL would give him. He's also a lot more stout than Pryor. Other than being black one-time quarterbacks, the two have nothing in common.
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Uh, no he's not. Gray is 6-4, 242 while Pryor is 6-4, 233. While there is a nine-pound difference, Pryor is chiseled out of granite.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
It is truly ironic that any Ohio State fan would be complaining about his team's quarterback avoiding contact, what with Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett both out with injuries, and the Buckeyes' season resting on the very inexperienced shoulders of third-stringer Cardale Jones.

And for the record, I remember Pryor employing a pretty mean stiff-arm, which seems to be the better way to initiate contact (albeit far less macho) than lowering the shoulder.
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Who the hell is complaining? Just stating the obvious. He didn't like contact.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
Don't be ridiculous.

Pryor had 8,365 total yards (214.5 per game) and 76 total touchdowns (2 per game). His record as a starting quarterback was 31-4, with wins in two BCS bowls. He was a SUPERSTAR.

BTW, you can add Braxton Miller, Beanie Wells, Carlos Hyde, and Santonio Holmes to your list of bums who were never named All Americans.
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Im another one of those buckeye fans that doesnt think Pryor was a superstar. He was never a great passer, and was never going to be. He was a great athlete and built to succeed at the college level - and with the amount of talent he had around him, and his ability to run the ball, he was a great player -- but at the end of the day he just was never going to be a good pro.
 
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keep gettin dem checks...

makes you wonder about these high school kids being a little too stubborn about playing the position they want compared to playing the position they are projected best in...

good luck, terrelle pryor, jamal charles, mccluster, black mamba...could be dangerous
 
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scooter1369 said:
Who the hell is complaining? Just stating the obvious. He didn't like contact.
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I seem to remember TP heading for the sideline on a nice run against Minny, I believe during his freshman year. As he neared the sideline, he saw a Minnesota LB of equal size, or close enough anyway. He turned upfield and absolutely TRUCKED that fucker and lifted him and tossed him out of bounds into one of their coaches. I also remember him getting a stern talking to, and so on and so forth from JT.

I'm not saying TP didn't avoid contact or that he loved to hit, but I wonder how much of that behavior was him, and how much was coaching.

Another thing, if you don't consider TP a fucking superstar, your metric needs tweaked. Dude was a legit badass motherfucker on a CFB field. STILL gets too much shit and not near enough credit. Can you imagine what he'd do behind a Warriner coached OL in an Urban Meyer offense? :lol:

Crimony.

Give 'em hell, TP!
 
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I seem to remember TP doing similar against Petey and USC as a freshman. Maybe even against an all american safety?


For all the talk about what if TP was in an Urban Meyer style offense, I am equally excited to see him in an Andy Reid offense. If he were to get the job, I would draft him in fantasy in a heartbeat.
 
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