QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[OhioState2110]

Anyone else find the irony in this?



Uh, he made more than some "minor mistakes". He made some major mistakes, and to boot - A LOT of them. I don't wish him ill will or anything, in fact I wish him the best. But to pretend that he's a victim and giving him a pass for being a kid is just asinine IMO. He's a grown man, and no matter what people say - at 18-22 years old, one knows the difference between right and wrong. I don't buy that just a kid bull[Mark May]. If you can vote in our country and fight to defend it, you're not longer a "kid" in my book.

How did he make major mistakes? He didn't do anything illegal, he just sold some of his gear and stuff for 2K. It's a minor mistake in breaking an already dumb NCAA rule. Maybe it's major if you look at it through a fans point of view but as a life mistake it's just minor. I still like the kid and I'll continue to root for him in the NFL as I do with other buckeyes.

 

[Systems_id]

I agree with your general sentiment, but I will say that there were plenty of folks with "concern" over maturity issues. Granted, EVERYONE liked the winning, but it seems that concerns about his maturity followed him his entire career.

But again, I agree with you that he deserves some modest share of the blame for making some poor choices, but whatever predicament we're in now, is related more to JTs decisions than TPs.

What about the rest of the guys who got us into this mess? You never here a peep from people about them. If you only watched the news, you'd swear it was only Pryor who sold his stuff and potentially robbed a bank. Hell I remember a poster on this very board say they couldn't wait until Boom and Posey were on the field. Why doesn't the rest of the Tat 5 get the scorn and hatred that's been pretty much been laid at Pryor's feet alone?

 

[NFBuck]

What about the rest of the guys who got us into this mess? You never here a peep from people about them. If you only watched the news, you'd swear it was only Pryor who sold his stuff and potentially robbed a bank. Hell I remember a poster on this very board say they couldn't wait until Boom and Posey were on the field. Why doesn't the rest of the Tat 5 get the scorn and hatred that's been pretty much been laid at Pryor's feet alone?

1. He was THE STAR
2. He's said some silly things in the past (and I think, in retrospect, the post-Sugar Bowl speech seems pretty patronizing considering what happened in the months following)
3. There was the "car stuff"
4. There was the showing up to the team meeting following JT's dismissal and the leaking of the "car stuff" in a "new" (I know it was an '07 or whatever) sportscar
5. He's leaving with a lot of "unfullfilled promise"

I'm not saying it's fair and/or justified, just listing reasons.

 

[GomerBucks]

What about the rest of the guys who got us into this mess? You never here a peep from people about them. If you only watched the news, you'd swear it was only Pryor who sold his stuff and potentially robbed a bank. Hell I remember a poster on this very board say they couldn't wait until Boom and Posey were on the field. Why doesn't the rest of the Tat 5 get the scorn and hatred that's been pretty much been laid at Pryor's feet alone?

Having personally interacted with each of the Tat 5 and Tress, my opinion is a bit more personal. I will leave it at that.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Having personally interacted with each of the Tat 5 and Tress, my opinion is a bit more personal. I will leave it at that.

The personal interaction angle always amuses me. I mean. you could find a shit load of people that will tell you I'm an asshole, and probably much worse. That doesn't mean I'm an asshole. It just means I didn't like them.

 

[GomerBucks]

The personal interaction angle always amuses me. I mean. you could find a [Mark May] load of people that will tell you I'm an asshole, and probably much worse. That doesn't mean I'm an asshole. It just means I didn't like them.

I will give you that. I also haven't excused any of the others outside of understanding Mike Adams reasoning a bit more.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I will give you that. I also haven't excused any of the others outside of understanding Mike Adams reasoning a bit more.

For the record, I wasn't saying you're wrong or an asshole.

I just know that opinion derived from personal interaction can be even more biased than that which comes from just viewing from afar.

 

[MaxBuck]

... you could find a [Mark May] load of people that will tell you I'm an asshole, and probably much worse. That doesn't mean I'm an asshole.

Righto. I didn't need anyone else to tell me.

(Me too of course. )

 

[matcar]

What about the rest of the guys who got us into this mess? You never here a peep from people about them. If you only watched the news, you'd swear it was only Pryor who sold his stuff and potentially robbed a bank. Hell I remember a poster on this very board say they couldn't wait until Boom and Posey were on the field. Why doesn't the rest of the Tat 5 get the scorn and hatred that's been pretty much been laid at Pryor's feet alone?

Pretty sure Pittman stated that folks been gettin' hooked up with tats for years. So, it probably goes beyond 5 kids. So all of them are accountable, not just Pryor...and that part I completely agree. And I agree that some folks operate with a lynch-mob mentality and want someone to blame and hence TP is an obvious target because he's made a couple other dubious choices that I think NFbuck has already listed. I don't think that's right...but there you have it.

But, all these fellas did is get themselves into 5 games suspensions of hot water. They didn't get "us into this mess". That part falls on JT and the admin.

 

[Muck]

How did he make major mistakes? He didn't do anything illegal, he just sold some of his gear and stuff for 2K. It's a minor mistake in breaking an already dumb NCAA rule. Maybe it's major if you look at it through a fans point of view but as a life mistake it's just minor.

Breaking rules you think are dumb is no biggie....to hell with the consequences towards those around you.

Be sure to pass on that bit of wisdom the next time you're in a job interview.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Breaking rules you think are dumb is no biggie....to hell with the consequences towards those around you.

Be sure to pass on that bit of wisdom the next time you're in a job interview.

Click-it or ticket.

 

[3074326]

Fuck your pretty clear violations. He deserves a share of the blame. Not ridicule and scorn. Funny how when he wasn't "doing much off the field to make fans love him" no one was bitching so long as he was winning.

I said he deserves a share of the blame in my post. He also made pretty clear violations and showed some pretty big lapses in judgement off the field, so fuck your post. I don't know what you're trying to prove here.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I said he deserves a share of the blame in my post. He also made pretty clear violations and showed some pretty big lapses in judgement off the field, so fuck your post. I don't know what you're trying to prove here.

You and I have a huge difference of opinion concerning "Big lapse of judgment".

 

[Buckskin86]

Updated: July 19, 2011
Wild card
Should an NFL GM take a flier on Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft?
By Jeffri Chadiha
ESPN The Magazine

Jeffrey Salter | ESPN The MagazineEvery evaluator is convinced that Pryor is a talent -- but there isn't a consensus on his position.

This story appears in the July 25 issue of ESPN The Magazine.

The AFC scout sat in the press box at Ohio Stadium last November, waiting to see how Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor handled a sizable second-quarter lead against archrival Michigan. What the scout witnessed made him cringe.

As the clock wound down to halftime, the Buckeyes had the ball at the UM 19-yard line with a chance to make a 24-7 lead insurmountable heading to the locker room. But Pryor dropped back, locked in on a receiver running down the left sideline and threw a soft pass that Wolverines safety Jordan Kovacs intercepted in the end zone. Ohio State still went on to win 37-7 to clinch its sixth straight Big Ten title, and Pryor put up solid numbers (18-for-27, 220 yards passing, two TDs). But the scout's opinion was cemented that Pryor isn't a legit NFL quarterback prospect. "It may have been one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen because he just lobbed the ball," the scout says. "Now, if he does that against Michigan, what's he going to do against the Patriots or the Steelers?"

That's only one question from one scout -- from a game that was a blowout win. Pryor will have to answer much more difficult queries in the coming weeks, as the disgraced Buckeye preps for the NFL's supplemental draft. The lockout has prevented him from working out for teams, and the league has said it will hold the draft as close as 10 days before the start of camps. All of that adds up to third and long for Pryor as he hopes to break into the league through a back door that rarely yields productive pros.

Cont...

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/stor...e-pryor-nfl-evaluators-debating-espn-magazine

Sources tell me the Dolphins have also done an extensive amount of work scouting, and researching former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor. The Dolphins view Pryor as a potential No. 3 quarterback, one with upside. Most teams are debating whether or not Pryor is worth a late-round investment, and the Dolphins MIGHT make an effort to select him in the supplemental draft, but that decision will likely be impacted by how free agency and camp plays out.

Folks, we?re not talking about someone who will compete for the starting spot. We?re talking about Pryor being someone young to develop, a player who will serve as the quarterback who cuts his teeth each week by getting the defense ready for their upcoming opponent.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...miami-dolphins-to-set-tyler-thigpen-free.html

 

[Systems_id]

1. He was THE STAR

Much like others are getting tired of the "It's just youth" mantra, I'm getting tired of the "B-b-but he's the star QB" excuse. So what? Last time I checked he didn't do anything worse than the others yet he's only one who gets forced out of school and basically getting spat on by fans.

2. He's said some silly things in the past (and I think, in retrospect, the post-Sugar Bowl speech seems pretty patronizing considering what happened in the months following)

The "Everybody murders, people, blah blah blah" is seriously an annoying case of willful ignorance. Anyone with three brain cells knew goddamn well what he was trying say.

As for the Sugar Bowl apology, why was it patronizing? I'm sure he was terribly sorry and couldn't of known Tress's emails would get leaked.

3. There was the "car stuff"

What "car stuff"? The cars that were cleared by the Ohio BMV and made the overzealous media look like the [censored]ing morons that they are?

4. There was the showing up to the team meeting following JT's dismissal and the leaking of the "car stuff" in a "new" (I know it was an '07 or whatever) sportscar

Again, the car that was proven to have been bought by his mother thus making the overzealous media look [censored]ing stupid yet again?

5. He's leaving with a lot of "unfullfilled promise"

I somewhat agree with this but I never really bought into the "multiple NCs or multiple Heisman" hype everyone bought into simply because I know how NCs and Heisman's these days are more about luck than how good you are.

I'm not saying it's fair and/or justified, just listing reasons.

Right, I know where you're coming from. It's just annoying as hell to listen to people bash Pryor like he single-handily brought down the program or something. On the contrary, it seems like this could of happen any time within the past 10 years and Tat-5 just hit a streak of bad luck.

Edit: Holy crap Pryor looks exactly like Greg Oden in that pic.