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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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TheIronColonel;1462883; said:
It's an interesting comparison, though not a straight one. Their freshmen numbers:

Tim Tebow
Passing: 14 games, 22/33, 66.7%, 358 yards, 10.8 ypc, 1 int, 5 TD, 201.73 rating, 2.4 att/g, 25.6 ypg
Rushing: 14 games, 89 attempts, 469 yards, 5.27 ypc, 8 TD, 6.36 att/g, 33.50 ypg

Terrelle Pryor
Passing: 13 games, 100/166, 60.2%, 1311 yards, 7.9 ypc, 4 int, 12 TD, 145.62 rating, 12.8 att/g, 100.8 ypg
Rushing: 13 games, 139 attempts, 631 yards, 4.54 ypc, 6 TD, 10.69 att/g, 48.54 ypg

Tebow clearly has better numbers, but it's not a great comparison: he wasn't the starter and was primarily used situationally. I was inclined to think that Tebow's numbers were inflated by Florida's offense, but Florida averaged 29.7 ppg in 2006 whereas OSU averaged 27.6 ppg in 2008 - not a huge disparity. Terrelle has a world of talent, but I don't think it's fair to compare him to Tebow (yet).
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Like you said, interesting but not a great comparison. Here's why:

1) Pryor ran after passing, throwing 5 times as much. Tebow ran with designed runs. One's 5-15 yards behind line of scrimmage; other is running forward with blockers. Many of those sacks, whether poor blocking or poor decision-making, resulted in a lower ypc.

2) Pryor threw to possession-type receivers (who were hurt); Tebow to a slew of burners who lived off the long ball (until they played us in the NCG, then it was nothing over 20 yards). Different ypa makes sense.

3) Pryor had to run entire (but limited) package. Tebow ran a super-subset and specialized, allowing Leak to run majority keeping defense guessing. With Pryor, it was on-the-job training.

4) SEC is mighty except against running QBs or inside run games. Tebow specializes in both. Look at the stats of Pittman and Wells ypc in the NCGs. We didn't have trouble running inside, where a DEs speed is neutralized.

5) Tebow cannot play like a fullback in the NFL; most great college rbs only last a few years on average running that way. Pryor runs more like a Pat White but has the size of Tebow, which will help his longevity. Although this has nothing to do with the stat comparison, I just thought I'd throw that in.

With that said, Pryor has a long way to climb in terms of accolades. Tebow is a proven winner. Pryor's barometer will be the USC game. If he does what I think he will, with his stable of new speedsters (and a Chris Carter remix), he could make ESPN's current best college QB that ever lived (Tebow) start looking like last year's model.:osu:
 
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Tlangs;1462891; said:
I give Terrell the advantage because of the 133 more pass attempts. going into their sophmore year...TP has a huge adavantage in experience.
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Tim Tebow, simply put, was not really a quarterback as a freshman. He was more of a wildcat FB.

The majority of his passes were in blowouts vs UCF & W Car.
He completed 0 passes in 6 games.
He completed 1 pass in 3 games.

The exception to the rule was LSU & OSU, where he completed 3 passes total (all for TDs, though).
 
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Yup, he was used about as much as a passer than McFadden. He clearly became much more, but he was a creatively deployed fullback in year 1.

To be fair, JT would love nothing more than an unstoppable 3-5 yard dive play to run ad nauseum
 
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TheIronColonel;1464020; said:
If you get 3-5 yards on every. single. play...why would you EVER run anything else? It would be dull as hell, but you'd win a ton of games.
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Actually you'd win every single game if you had an equal # of posessions and your defense could stop the offense from scoring a TD but once.

Back to tp.....
 
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Five questions for Terrelle Pryor
Posted: May 9, 2009
Ken Bradley
Sporting News

When Terrelle Pryor committed to Ohio State last year, big things immediately were expected from the dual-threat quarterback from Pennsylvania. It didn't take long for him to become the Buckeyes' starter. He ran for 631 yards and threw for 1,311 while completing 60.6 percent of his pass attempts. Despite that success, concern lingers: Can a running quarterback be successful throwing the ball? He answered that question in OSU's spring game, completing 13 of 18 passes for 191 yards and two scores, and addresses it in questions from Sporting News readers.

Q: You waited until mid-March to commit to Ohio State. When you look back on it, are you glad you waited, and how did that extra time benefit you? --Derick Hughes, Atlanta


Pryor: Waiting was the right thing for me. It allowed me to take care of my responsibilities, including winning state championships in football and basketball (at Jeannette High School). That's an accomplishment that will last forever at my high school, and I will always be proud that I was a part of it.

Q: Of all of the talented Buckeye receivers, who do you think will step up this year and be your go-to guy? --Pete Brownshoes, Olympia, Wash.

Pryor: Even though (Brian) Robiskie and (Brian) Hartline are headed to the NFL, we will have more than one go-to guy. We have (Dane) Sanzenbacher, (Ray) Small, Taurian Washington, (DeVier) Posey, Lamaar Thomas -- that's a very strong receiver group.

Q: After signing and now playing with Ohio State, are you treated any differently when you return for visits to Pennsylvania? --Dennis A. Matejka, Cleveland

Pryor: No, those are my home folks. The people in Pennsylvania are great to me and very proud of me. And I'm proud to represent Jeannette wherever I go.

Q: What was the biggest adjustment you had to make going from high school to playing quarterback in the Big Ten? --Dave Burtscher, North Canton, Ohio

Pryor: Quicker decision making. But I am working on it and getting quicker and more comfortable.
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TheIronColonel;1463574; said:
Who Sent Pryor The Email? | mgoblog

I'm guessing this is the kind of stuff that Buckeye bloggers would have written in the Cooper years. Kind of funny, in a really desperate sort of way.
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no, during the cooper years we knew exactly who was guaranteeing wins every year. nobody had to ask, they were quoted in the flippin paper.

i did like the herbie theory. after watching what he did with miles it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
 
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martinss01;1466074; said:
no, during the cooper years we knew exactly who was guaranteeing wins every year. nobody had to ask, they were quoted in the flippin paper.

i did like the herbie theory. after watching what he did with miles it certainly wouldn't surprise me.
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life must really be dull and boring for scUM'ers. That whole thread really isn't even that funny. A couple parts made me crack a smile but overall they're just overreacting and nutcupping some dude that thinks he's funny over there.

I surely hope they all think TP can't throw though. Hopefully they don't realize things will have changed by the time THE GAME comes next year. Rude Awakening.

I even like how some of them really believed Tress when he mentioned throwing TP out of the Spring Game. They actually thought Pryor got tossed by the refs/coaching staff for running his mouth lol
 
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TheIronColonel;1464020; said:
If you get 3-5 yards on every. single. play...why would you EVER run anything else? It would be dull as hell, but you'd win a ton of games.
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I've heard that logic somewhere before....somebody help me....it's right on the tip of my tongue....


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