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QB/WR Braxton Miller (B1G POY, National Champion, OSU HOF)

BuckJr;2234424; said:
Braxton had 3 TDs and 360 yards. Close game but looks like he'll be the heisman favorite from this point\

Shoulda had 5 TDs and 400+ yards, too bad.

One does not become a Heisman after playing against Indiana.

OhioState001;2234434; said:
Geno's still ahead and far ahead in my opinion

Nor does one remain a Heisman favorite after losing a game by five touchdowns.
 
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jlb1705;2234579; said:
One does not become a Heisman after playing against Indiana.



Nor does one remain a Heisman favorite after losing a game by five touchdowns.


Yeah, but he didn't hurt his chances. He already was a top 2-3 candidate before this week, and he just put up monster numbers on the road for a victory. 360 yards and 3 tds is nothing to sneeze at, especially since he should of had more due to drops. The only other legit canidate at this point is Colin Klein, and imo he isn't as good as Braxton.
 
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OhioState001;2234434; said:
Geno's still ahead and far ahead in my opinion

I watched that entire game. Not anything Heisman worthy to see, in front of the nation. Threw some very impressive longer balls, well-positioned passes on a few occasions. There also were problems with locking onto receivers in critical situations, failing to square his shoulders when rolling to the left, and other things you would not expect to see, imho.

If he brought them back yesterday, the trophy would have been his to lose for sure, now, not so much.
 
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Steve19;2234634; said:
I watched that entire game. Not anything Heisman worthy to see, in front of the nation. Threw some very impressive longer balls, well-positioned passes on a few occasions. There also were problems with locking onto receivers in critical situations, failing to square his shoulders when rolling to the left, and other things you would not expect to see, imho.

If he brought them back yesterday, the trophy would have been his to lose for sure, now, not so much.

True I think Braxton has out played him the last few weeks but it's hard to look past Geno's TD-INT ratio but I agree that Miller is gaining ground.
 
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OhioState001;2234993; said:
True I think Braxton has out played him the last few weeks but it's hard to look past Geno's TD-INT ratio but I agree that Miller is gaining ground.

Maybe the last two weeks and honestly their performances last week were about as even. Braxton wasn't in the same area code the week previous (Geno's Baylor game).

That said, Braxton made up a ton of ground last night.
 
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Mike80;2234998; said:
Maybe the last two weeks and honestly their performances last week were about as even. Braxton wasn't in the same area code the week previous (Geno's Baylor game).

That said, Braxton made up a ton of ground last night.

Through Indiana, Braxton is:

#6 Nationally in rushing yards (912)

#12 Nationally in rushing TDs (9)

#64 Nationally in passing yards (1271)

#35 Nationally in passing TDs (11)

#7 Nationally in Total Offensive yards (2183). Geno Smith is #4 (2341 yds).

Geno pretty much leads the nation in all of passing stats, most notably a TD-INT ratio of 25:0! He is well ahead of Braxton in the passing territory but he doesn't have all-around game-winning abilities that Braxgton has.
 
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ShowMeBuck;2206278; said:
I know Urban scoffed at the Heisman question in the press conference but I can seriously see Braxton getting an invite this year. I'm not saying he would win it, but getting an invite? It's possible. He is talented enough and playing in the perfect scheme for his talents. Only reason would be not enough time in the new system. He had the kind of plays Saturday that players make who get invited to New York. No question about that.

Yes, i quoted myself. He's getting an invite.
 
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1. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia -- His team's rout at the hands of Texas Tech weakens his candidacy somewhat, but not enough to knock him from the top spot. Keep in mind that he still has a ridiculous 25-0 touchdown-to-interception ratio and remains on pace to have 4,542 yards and 50 touchdown passes (with an absurdly-low interception total, maybe even zero) by the time Heisman ballots are due. Those numbers should easily lock down the trophy as long as West Virginia doesn't collapse. While future games against K-State and Oklahoma are potential pitfalls, they are also opportunities for Smith to strengthen his case. Can he rebound mentally from the debacle in Lubbock in time to come up big this Saturday?

2. Collin Klein, QB, Kansas State -- Klein continues to impress and is the most immediate threat to Smith's Heisman hopes. He's on pace to finish with 2,158 passing yards, 14 touchdowns, four interceptions, plus 1,030 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns. If Kansas State knocks off West Virginia on the road next week and Klein plays well, he could wrench control of the race away from Smith. Because his numbers are very good, but not overwhelming, it's likely that K-State will have to go undefeated for him to win the trophy over Smith.

3. Braxton Miller, QB, Ohio State -- The argument that Miller is hurt by Ohio State's probation doesn't hold a lot of water at this point. He'll play 12 games before the Heisman vote is due, but so will the other top candidates in this race. As with Klein, Miller's numbers aren't out of this world, but they will likely be good enough to be considered Heisman worthy when also paired with an undefeated season. Miller is on pace to have 2,179 passing yards and 19 touchdowns (with seven picks) plus 1,560 rushing yards and 15 touchdowns. Outside of the season-ender against Michigan, he doesn't have any spotlight games left in which to make his case, so he'll need to close out strong to have a shot at the trophy.

4. Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M -- I've always been on record that a freshman will never win the Heisman. I still stand by that notion, but I'm also open to the possibility that I may one day be proven wrong! Manziel looks to me to have the capability to mount a once-in-a-lifetime run at the trophy. 'Johnny Football' already has two games of 550-plus yards of total offense this season and he'll likely end up a 3,000-yard passer and a 1,000-yard rusher in his first campaign--and in the SEC, no less. He is on pace for 48 combined touchdowns on the season, which approximates what the last four Heisman-winning quarterbacks produced. The schedule is set up perfectly for a late charge, as he takes on No. 6 LSU next Saturday and then Alabama on November 10. Call it a long shot, but here it is: Beat LSU and 'Bama and this freshman might win.
 
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Dryden;2235194; said:

Some of those QBs will have 13 games though with conference championship games.

And I really don't get it....Geno Smith will win the Heisman based on his offensive stats, but they're disregarding the fact that he doesn't play a team with a defense, and when he does, he gets shut down and embarrassed. How is that the best football player in the country? That's like saying a team has the best pass defense in the country when all it plays are the service academies and Georgia Tech.
 
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