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QB/WR Braxton Miller (B1G POY, National Champion, OSU HOF)

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Buckskin86;2220280; said:
Braxton Miller Postgame: UAB- NBC4i video
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I'm sick of the "how many times should you touch the ball" question. He could take it 40 times a game and not get hit and be ok or he could take it 10 times and get hit every time. There is no magic number. He needs to carry the ball to get the offense going....that's all there is to it. WR's need to make those easy catches to keep the momentum.
 
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Boostinlsj;2220395; said:
I'm sick of the "how many times should you touch the ball" question. He could take it 40 times a game and not get hit and be ok or he could take it 10 times and get hit every time. There is no magic number. He needs to carry the ball to get the offense going....that's all there is to it. WR's need to make those easy catches to keep the momentum.
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I agree. Too many people are in his head about how he "should" play the game. How he "should" mature. If he knows he can run and pick up the first vs taking a chance downfield. Just let the kid play and mature on his own instead of force feeding him. He will get there when he gets there.

Its college, its a learning experience over FOUR years.
 
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SEREbuckeye;2220470; said:
I agree. Too many people are in his head about how he "should" play the game. How he "should" mature. If he knows he can run and pick up the first vs taking a chance downfield. Just let the kid play and mature on his own instead of force feeding him. He will get there when he gets there.

Its college, its a learning experience over FOUR years.
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It's just a constant struggle with mobile QBs to find a balance and have patience and confidence that they will eventually learn the game. It's vewry important right now that the offensive game plan and coaches make sure Miller is comfortable and stray away from extremes of rushing too much or too little. Luckily I think they have learned a lot the last two weeks in terms of what he needs to do to succeed.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit to see him run it 20 times against MSU and Nebraska.
 
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Mariotwins;2220458; said:
I know he ability to run it far outshines his ability to throw the ball but am I the only one that wants to see him pass the ball more?
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I'd like to see him hit open deep routes first. Devin Smith was as open as can be on the very first drive of the game, and he also under threw Corey Brown on an open deep route later in the game.
 
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I don't think its so much about limiting Braxton's carries as it has to do
with Braxton protecting himself. Sure a few designed runs are nice and give the defense something to think about. However on non-designed scrambles unless he has the rushing lanes to pick up significan't yardage he should go for whatever moves the chains and just be mindful of his health.

I think there is far to much concern on how "much" he's running - when the true concern is 'how' he is running and most importantly, finsihing those runs.
 
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Just a heads up on how Braxton ranks nationally. He didnt have his strongest game this last week, but every bit helps if he does have a chance at getting some hardware.

CBSsports.com

#2 nationally for total points accrued. Behind Nevada's Jefferson. He's actually the only top 25 team player to be in the top 5.

#48 nationally in passing TDs

#10 nationally in rushing yards

#3 nationally in rushing TDs

#7 in total TDs
 
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Maybe it's just me, but most Qb's don't have all the tools. Certainly, they are good to great at one thing (running or pocket passing), and more than likely to be 'decent' at the other. At the elite D-1 level, I'm sure that the coaches are trying to work on the weaker of the two skills. Plus add in 'good decision making' skills (the difference between a great HSer and a great college QB?).

Braxton clearly has the running part down cold. Against Miami, he threw some 'wounded ducks', especially when he was running play action. That has gotten better (as I seem to remember the games since then), as has his touch (not perfect yet, but a darn sight better than it was).

Against UAB, it appeared to me that Urb was having him stay in the pocket and spread it around. OK, that was less than successful, but part of Braxton's maturation process. When he reverted to his more natural style, the O moved. I also suspect that going against one's own D in practice (with red/black jersy and all), is good, but inherently one knows they are going to pull up, instead of trying to take your head off.

Michigan State has the best D Braxton has faced this year (tOSU D excluded), and I'm not certain that he will be up to the task. I'm hoping, of course, and will be rooting for him, but every step is a learning process, and final exams are next year's (2013) edition. We all have to remember this isn't Woody or Tressel's system, but Urban's and his alone. Many of the elements are similar, but waaay different. Braxton has done very well, especially looking at the results he has shown to get to 4-0. And just to spice things up, how many of us arm-chair-QB's believe that Urb has shown all his cards? Methinks that he's got a few new cards up his sleeve for MSU, (when wins count), versus the 'body-bag games' that tOSU has been playing.


:gobucks3::gobucks4::banger: Every day and every way......
 
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calibuck;2220611; said:
Maybe it's just me, but most Qb's don't have all the tools. Certainly, they are good to great at one thing (running or pocket passing), and more than likely to be 'decent' at the other. At the elite D-1 level, I'm sure that the coaches are trying to work on the weaker of the two skills. Plus add in 'good decision making' skills (the difference between a great HSer and a great college QB?).

Braxton clearly has the running part down cold. Against Miami, he threw some 'wounded ducks', especially when he was running play action. That has gotten better (as I seem to remember the games since then), as has his touch (not perfect yet, but a darn sight better than it was).

Against UAB, it appeared to me that Urb was having him stay in the pocket and spread it around. OK, that was less than successful, but part of Braxton's maturation process. When he reverted to his more natural style, the O moved. I also suspect that going against one's own D in practice (with red/black jersy and all), is good, but inherently one knows they are going to pull up, instead of trying to take your head off.

Michigan State has the best D Braxton has faced this year (tOSU D excluded), and I'm not certain that he will be up to the task. I'm hoping, of course, and will be rooting for him, but every step is a learning process, and final exams are next year's (2013) edition. We all have to remember this isn't Woody or Tressel's system, but Urban's and his alone. Many of the elements are similar, but waaay different. Braxton has done very well, especially looking at the results he has shown to get to 4-0. And just to spice things up, how many of us arm-chair-QB's believe that Urb has shown all his cards? Methinks that he's got a few new cards up his sleeve for MSU, (when wins count), versus the 'body-bag games' that tOSU has been playing.


:gobucks3::gobucks4::banger: Every day and every way......
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This is what i'm thinking (hoping). I want to see some new plays at State.
 
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Kyle Rowland ‏@KyleRowland
Ohio State's running backs (Zach Boren included) have 444 rushing yards and six touchdowns this season. Braxton Miller has 441 and seven.
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He's good.
 
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MUBuck;2220564; said:
I'd like to see him hit open deep routes first. Devin Smith was as open as can be on the very first drive of the game, and he also under threw Corey Brown on an open deep route later in the game.
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I found this to be re-assuring:

http://www.cleveland.com/buckeyeblog/index.ssf/2012/09/urban_meyer_devin_smith_ohio_s.html
Why? Because it had worked that way in practice, ?enough times to call it,? Smith said. ?We liked the play, obviously, against their defense,? Smith said. ?It was something that Coach Meyer really threw out there, and him and I talked and threw it out at Devin, like, 'Hey, run this route well a couple times this week and we'll open the game with it.' So he bought into that and we did well all week with it, so we felt good about it.? The problem was that left guard Andrew Norwell was beaten by his UAB defender off the snap, and Jordan Hall in the backfield may have had a chance to pick up the pass rush but didn't. So Miller had pressure on top of him and rushed the throw, missing the wide open Smith.
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