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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

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BuckWrestler141 said:
Not entirely relevent but it irritated me so i figured i'd post it....

My buddy goes to OSU and saw Troy today, didn't speak with him but here is his comments..

n: Troy smith isnt driving anything special at least though ill tell you that.
n: He was parked in a teachers restricted parking spot and he drove a red impala
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HO-LY ..... MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW COULD HE LET DOWN HIS TEAMMATES LIKE THAT?!?!?!?!?!?!

DEAR GOD, THE SKY ... DON'T LOOK!!!!!! IT'S FALLING!!!!!!
 
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Taosman said:
The accumulation of incidents seems to point to character issues. It's a shame because so much effort was made to get him into school and give him a chance at building a life . How much should the university have to put up with? This reflects badly on OSU and gives more fuel to the "rogue program rap". Very disheartening!
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I'm not sure I agree with this statement. Has the university put up with more from TS than they have with other people? Hardly. I will concede that Troy had his run-in with the NCAA last year, which was unfortunate. But he is serving his two-game suspension for that. His other 'run-in' was a minor scuffle after curfew that landed him in hot water with Coach Tressel, but hardly qualifying him or our program as a rogue.

The most recent episode? Aside from the fact that we don't know all of the facts, it appears that the NCAA won't be getting involved (as of yet) due to the extremely minor nature of the incident. Did Troy break a rule? YES. He should have done things differently, no doubt. No excuses for that.

I will say though, that as it has been pointed out already: The NCAA has soooo many rules, and it is hard to always know what is or isn't accepted, that sometimes minor incidents do occur. And I know the following things for sure:

1. None of us would be worrying at all, if not for the recent go-around we had with the NCAA and the national media (which always goes for 'the evil-doing school trying to get ahead by any means' stories regardless of the school or the facts.)

2. Troy Smith is not MoC. He has always taken responsibility for his actions and has never made excuses.

3. The current situation involves charitible work done by TS, although I'm sure it wasn't completely altruistic. Nevertheless, TS wasn't taking money or raping women and murdering children. Lets get some perspective on that. Hell it wasn't even as bad as a DUI, but it gets all this attention.

4. Ohio State has one of the highest, if not the highest rates of self reporting to the NCAA. This event happens elsewhere, we may never hear of it. The NCAA, despite some opinions on message boards, is not out to get us. They actually are more likely to be lenient due to our higher standards of self-reporting.

5. And this may be the most important of them all; I don't care what the media thinks of us or people around the country think of us--- our record (and I don't mean win-loss) reflects our true character. We are not cheaters. We have always maintained high standards. We don't need to cheat because we are OSU. If other people find it convenient to believe that the only reason we whip their asses is by cheating and fail to recognize that we are better, then, you tell me who has the perception problem. As Woody said, "You win with people", and we consistently have better people (athletes, coaches, administrators, etc.) That hardly makes us rogue, just better.
 
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buckalum01, i would wager that 70% of the frustration over this situation stems from the clarrett incidents and are simply carrying over to ts. instead of letting the clarrett stuff drop and judging ts on ts' actions, we are judging ts on the actions of the entire team. imo, unless there is something much more serious to this story than we are hearing i seriously doubt there will be any ramifications. granted that is a big statement conscidering we have nothing resembling the whole story. but as of now, it seems pretty innocent to me.


"i know that it wasn't really part of the presser, but perhaps you missed the reports about the part of the team meeting where Tressel made one group of players stand up (possibly the one's with the misdemeanor arrests?) and told them, in front of the team, 'if you screw up again, YOU ARE GONE.' perhaps you also missed the part where Tressel made another group of players stand up (possibly those with shady grades, or a propensity for misconduct?) and told them, in front of the team, 'if you screw up one single time, you're suspended for a year.' i'm pretty sure that the policy you are looking for has been established..."

That was from LVbuckeye after the Haw incident. A few people called bullshit and no one backed this up with a credible source. I hope this was bullshit. If it isn't, I'm guessing Troy is out for the year.
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fmi, what is your source for this? i looked back through the thread and didn't see anything like this. might have missed it though...
 
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FKAGobucks877 said:
It was in another thread...I believe even moved to the Rumor Mill, although I may be wrong. We have never had any indication whatsoever that it's true.
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i kinda figured, i don't think i could hear tressel saying something like that. let alone him saying it in the fashion he did. i seriously doubt that if he had his guys would have near the respect they have for him.
 
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I could go either way on this one. It was heavily rumored that Cotton, Arden, Maupin and possibly a few others were on their last graces, at least in terms of before a one year suspension.

I don't think TS necessarily fits this bill, but the quote is probably based on something that happened. Whether it was as severe or not as stated, we'll never know.
 
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I want to support Grad and FKA on the issue of bashing. I cannot understand why anyone who claims to be an Ohio State fan, or alternatively becomes a member of a web site expressly for the purpose of people who are Ohio State fans, and then sets out to bash and trash Ohio State coaches and players at every opportunity.

There is another site or two where bashing Ohio State is quite the in-thing. If you want to bash and trash tOSU, then by all means play to your strengths and to an appreciative audience, but realize you will find them somewhere else.

I also find the angst and "sky is falling" approach of some of these posts quite disappointing. We don't have all the facts. If we lose Troy Smith for another game or two, then my bet is that the defense still shuts down Texas and Iowa and that either one of the two remaining quarterbacks directs an offensive attack that takes these guys to the woodpile.

I'll go further than that, I think our linebackers are going to kick the living daylights out of Texas and I am expecting a blowout. Oklahoma State was up 35-14 at the half last year and then collapsed, giving up 42 points in the second half. That is not a likely scenario in the Shoe, especially without Cedric Benson putting up the kind of yards he clocked in the second half.

I like the odds better with Smith, but I take the Buckeyes regardless.

Finally, while I am standing on this soapbox, I am not prepared to buy into the "Troy Smith is an egomaniac who thinks he is above the rules". The NCAA rules are the NCAA rules, but until I know the complete story, I am not prepared to believe that he didn't inform someone that he wanted to attend this camp.

As for the third-party parking story, with all due respect to everyone who relayed this, do we really know that it took place or is it urban legend? Even if he was parked in an "A" parking bay, we don't know why. Heck, if it was the last week of summer quarter when this happened, those bays should be empty. Moreover, if he is in the wrong space, he'll get ticketed just like any other student in a faculty space. Do you know anyone who has attended Ohio State that did not park in a faculty space at least once while attending school? Please guys, this is a kid in college.

1. In the USA, people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

2. This is a POSSIBLE violation that POSSIBLY may result in additional games for Troy Smith.

3. Although he is an important part of the team, there's an entire team ready to take the field very soon and take a run at the national championship, with or without him. Personally, I think they can do it either way.
 
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Steve19 said:
Do you know anyone who has attended Ohio State that did not park in a faculty space at least once while attending school?
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I haven't. I think your post is well thought out and well written. However, while I want terribly for TS to succeed and lead the Bucks to great things (which he showed he is capable of in the scUM game) and I can sympathize with the fact that he is a college kid, I also agree with some of the other posts. More specifically, I do wonder how many times we can keep turning our backs on trouble that TS has allegedly gotten himself into (the alleged altercation at the dorms, the taking of money from the booster, and now the alleged rule violation with McNair's camp). I just worry that IF our coaches are too lenient on these kids and turn their backs on problems, the program could eventually be landed in such hot water that it is barred from earning national championships no matter how hard it plays, just like the basketball team was last year. And none of us wants that.
 
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Made Me Think Of A Great Movie Quote...

Can you figure out which movie it comes from?

Troy Smith's Lawyer's Secretary: Um, Mr. Smith is on the phone and is in trouble again and he needs your legal advice...

Smith's Lawyer grabs the phone and screams into the receiver: Stop breaking the rules, ASSHOLE!!!

Note: Quote slightly modified to fit current situation.
 
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