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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

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CleveBucks said:
A spots on campus are open to anybody in the afternoon. Big f'in deal. I actually parked in the loading dock a couple days ago, does that make me a bad citizen?
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Actually if you reread it, it was in the morning. But i've already broken my word, done with the subject until Tressle or G. Smith make an announcement on the matter.
 
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As long as he doesn't/didn't park in a disabled-access spot, which is a crappy thing to do, I can't see where it matters at all. When I was there recently, if people didn't park in the wrong color lot (and usually got a ticket), then I certainly remember them creating spots when the lots were full. Hell, I knew several faculty members who had a bunch of parking tickets because they came in late all the time...this just isn't a big issue in my opinion.


As for the rest, I will be very interested as to how this affects his position on the team (meaning his access to the top of the depth chart, not whether he's on the team or not).
 
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I know it sounds dumb and inconsequential jlb, but my only point was that I remember the uproar (at OSU and nationally) when we played UCLA, and Cade McNown (I think he was QB) and some of the other players had obtained disabled parking passes and were using them on campus at UCLA. It was a PR nightmare of epic proportions, and I was just saying that as long as he wasn't doing that, it was no big deal.
 
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I think Troy's biggest problem is not letting the coaching staff know of his intentions. Troy is in the doghouse already and it appears he just isn't getting his chain of command going in the right direction. It shouldn't be that big of a deal but Troy's continued lack of sufficient thought during his decision making is making all of this the nightmare it has become.
 
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This isn't sounding good for Troy's decision making process. Even if the NCAA doesn't do anything to him I would have to think JT will punish him somehow. Personally, if I was in Troy's position I wouldn't take a crap w/o getting JT permission.

Posted on Fri, Jul. 22, 2005

R E L A T E D C O N T E N T
Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith might be guilty of another NCAA violation after working at a camp sponsored by the Titans.
Associated Press file
Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith might be guilty of another NCAA violation after working at a camp sponsored by the Titans.
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• OSU investigates another Smith issue

Reed: QB sneak might sack OSU's Smith

By Tom Reed

Jim Tressel is known for running a low-risk offense, but not even he would approve of the quarterback sneak Troy Smith apparently attempted a month ago.

Already on the NCAA watch list, the Ohio State quarterback it seems decided to participate in a charitable football camp sponsored by the Tennessee Titans' Steve McNair without getting the permission of OSU coaches or administrators. Smith might also have missed a class to volunteer his services at the June 2-3 camp. It could prove to be a costly audible for the quarterback and a tough decision for his coach.

How many more off-field incidents involving Smith is Tressel willing to endure? The Cleveland Glenville product is the coach's best quarterback and one of his most respected leaders in the locker room. But Smith's questionable judgement is putting himself and the program at risk.

Buckeyes administrators have confirmed the school is investigating whether Smith violated an NCAA rule by attending McNair's camp. NCAA regulations permit players to participate in educational and charitable activities, provided they don't miss class and have written permission from the school's athletic director or designated coach.

The junior already is serving a two-game suspension for accepting $500 from a rogue booster. Smith sat out the Alamo Bowl win, and will miss OSU's opener against Miami University.

If the newest allegations prove true, Smith essentially has violated his NCAA probation. An Ohio State spokesman said he doesn't believe school officials knew about Smith's intention to attend the camp. Whether Smith missed a class is not known.

There's also the question of how Smith got to Tennessee for the camp. The Columbus Dispatch reported that Smith might need to show a receipt from his air travel.

A source familiar with the camp said Thursday that transportation was not supplied. He added that Smith was invited to the camp and he likely was housed by a host family, a courtesy extended to most counselors.

The OSU football program, which escaped significant NCAA sanctions in the Maurice Clarett saga, probably will avoid punishment in the latest episode. If he did violate a rule, Smith might not be as fortunate. Even though the potential infraction is considered secondary, it could lengthen his suspension.

Someone must make Smith understand that a prerequisite for being a starting quarterback is sustained eligibility. Smith also was found guilty of disorderly conduct in connection with a 2003 fight on the OSU campus.

When Tressel chose Massillon graduate Justin Zwick over Smith as a starter last fall, you have to know Smith's accountability away from football was a factor. Could Tressel count on Smith in the long term? The question remains relevant.

Smith gives the Buckeyes a better chance to win. He is more athletic and charismatic. The offense plays with a swagger when Smith is in charge, as evidenced by his 4-1 record as a starter and brilliant performance in a win over Michigan.

Nobody is blaming Smith for wanting to work the camp. It's an honor to be selected by a role model such as McNair. It's commendable that Smith wanted to help kids, ages 7-16.

But given his NCAA status -- he still must be reinstated before playing a game -- and the microscope under which the OSU program operates, Smith should have known he needed permission. In the wake of the Clarett scandal, the university compliance department has all but taped NCAA regulations to the backs of their athletes' eyelids.

Tressel should discipline Smith, especially if he missed class.

When he was introduced as the Buckeyes' coach in 2001, Tressel stressed education. He noted that one of his kids was absent at the news conference because they had to attend class. Tressel said then the only valid reason to miss class is a death in the family -- ``your own (death).''

If he's not careful, Smith might bury himself with bad decisions.
Messages for Tom Reed can be left at 330-996-3821 or [email protected]
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So...what if he paid for the plane ticket himself? Is that so bad?

Seeing as tOSU has been investigating this for more than a month, then something bad obviously happened. So I guess all we can do wait and see what punishment Smith will receive, if any. Just my $.02.
 
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tibor75 said:
This incident proves one thing:

OSU really needs to move to the semester system. It's long overdue.
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One football player (allegedly) fails to follow through on a request and it's time to overhaul the entire school calendar system? To borrow your favorite emoticon :slappy:

There are pros and cons to changing the system. If this incident with Troy Smith is at the top of the list, then there's no need to change anything.

jlb1705 said:
You guys are arguing about where the quarterback parks his car... No wonder my friends treat me like a leper when I say I follow college football on internet messageboards.
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:lol:
 
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Misanthrope said:
One football player (allegedly) fails to follow through on a request and it's time to overhaul the entire school calendar system? To borrow your favorite emoticon :slappy:
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Damn Tibs...talk about your all-time backfires.


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I would say being on quarters is actually good for the OSU football program. When they greyshirt a player they get all of training camp, the first 4 weeks of the season, and all of the bowl practices to work with the team. A school on semesters only gets the player for training camp since school starts the first week of the season and doesn't end until mid December.
 
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