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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

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TS10HTW;1721950; said:
Troy still is the best QB on that roster. Flacco is garbage and Bulger is an even bigger joke. Fuck the ratbirds.
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I love Troy, but your scarlet and gray goggles are getting in the way of your objectivity.
 
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NFBuck;1722007; said:
Joe Flacco.

63%..3600 yds...21 td...13 int.

I don't know how some people cannot see how good he is...it's comical.
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The only reason he got the gig was because Troy was sick. Troy had the job and had beaten him. So while Flacco has numbers to back him up (numbers that could very well have been Troy's), Troy doesn't. All he has is a year of every player on his team saying he should be the starter, not Flacco.
 
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If he really pissed them off with the trade request and its timing, they could be preparing to cut him just before the season starts so that he doesn't have a chance to catch on with another team. He might have to latch on a practice squad somewhere just to learn the system before he even has a chance to compete for playing time.

If no team is willing to trade a fifth-rounder for him, I don't see any trade offers now unless the injury bug strikes another team.
 
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The ratbirds made the playoffs in back to back seasons in spite of joe flacco not because of him. Stats don't always tell the whole story. He was still given every opportunity to be the guy. And he's had some sucsess, no doubt.

The problem I have with the situation is: Troy wasn't given many opportunities since his tonsil infection. Going back to his senior year he's shown what he's capable of and short of the debacle in the dessert, I think he's proven himself worthy of a real opportunity.

Sorry those aren't scarlet and gray glasses; it's a matter of fact.
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NFBuck;1722007; said:
I don't know how some people cannot see how good he is...it's comical.
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I actually didn't mean to quote that entire post because I do think Flacco is a pretty good QB. I also don't think signing Bulger was a bad move either. With a decent O-line and some weapons on offense, I think he has the potential to get back to his Pro Bowl form.....just not at the price of 3.8 million.

So to FIFM......

TS10HTW;1721950; said:
Fuck the ratbirds.
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+1
 
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Troy is only 25, if he were the better QB he'd be playing. The Ravens made it apparent by signing Bulger that they value winning over money, since that signing was way expensive for his role.

So if Troy helped the Ravens win more than Flacco... Troy would be starting.

/waits for someone to say Flacco was a first round pick and that's why he's starting

Then I'll say the exact same thing.
 
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scooter1369;1722008; said:
The only reason he got the gig was because Troy was sick. Troy had the job and had beaten him. So while Flacco has numbers to back him up (numbers that could very well have been Troy's), Troy doesn't. All he has is a year of every player on his team saying he should be the starter, not Flacco.
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This line of reasoning isn't even logical. If Troy was demonstrably better than Flacco he would be playing. The coaches only keep their jobs if they win, and they are not going to jeopardize their job by playing an inferior quarterback.

The people who believe there is some massive conspiracy against Troy Smith's NFL candidacy would have likely trusted Jim Jones' Kool Aid stand.
 
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This all seems very familiar. :lol: Let me ask all the Troy fan boys a simple question: if he played his college ball at, say, UCLA (same degree of college success), would you look at the Ravens qb situation and feel the same? I'd wager not. That's the definition of scarlet colored glasses. I'm done with this argument for now because it's all been said before and it's silly.
 
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NFBuck;1722020; said:
This all seems very familiar. :lol: Let me ask all the Troy rabbits a simple question: if he played his college ball at, say, UCLA (same degree of college success), would you look at the Ravens qb situation and feel the same? I'd wager not. That's the definition of scarlet colored glasses. I'm done with this argument for now because it's all been said before and it's silly.
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Can someone let NFBuck know MaxBuck is posting under his account?
 
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DontHateOState;1722018; said:
This line of reasoning isn't even logical. If Troy was demonstrably better than Flacco he would be playing. The coaches only keep their jobs if they win, and they are not going to jeopardize their job by playing an inferior quarterback.

The people who believe there is some massive conspiracy against Troy Smith's NFL candidacy would have likely trusted Jim Jones' Kool Aid stand.
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What's not logical about it? Its a matter of record that Troy was going to be the starter. He contracted a vicious form of tonsilitis and Flacco started in his place. After Troy was healthy, the coaches stuck with Flacco because he was what the team was used to and they were winning. After that, Troy never got another sniff. It was never about Flacco being better. It then became about chemistry on the field. The team was used to Flacco at that point, and as long as they were winning, they weren't going to change a thing, regardless of how many players said Troy should be the starter.
 
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NFBuck;1722020; said:
This all seems very familiar. :lol: Let me ask all the Troy fan boys a simple question: if he played his college ball at, say, UCLA (same degree of college success), would you look at the Ravens qb situation and feel the same? I'd wager not. That's the definition of scarlet colored glasses. I'm done with this argument for now because it's all been said before and it's silly.
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You assume too much. Sorry if the facts of what transpired in Baltimore don't mesh with your chance to bash anyone who disagrees with you.
 
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