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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

Indica;780500; said:
man, who the fuck cares where he gets drafted.

i'm more interested in which team takes him.

he needs the right coach.

in my opinion, troy became a little too robotic. it was necessary for his development, but he can't forget his true instincts. he's got UNBELIEVABLE instincts. he needs a coach that will let him ball.

the first michigan game, and the final 2 drives of the 2nd michigan game ... he was just BALLING. and the 2nd half of that 2004 purdue game ... this is the troy smith that i know and love. the one who INSPIRES.

i am a fan of the troy smith that the media/buckeye fans hated. the "reformed" troy smith ..... i don't know.

he knows who he truly is. he needs a coach that believes in him.

i love tressel, but the fact that he stuck with zwick as long as he did .... i mean, what the hell.

now that troy has learned to watch film and be a student of the game ... he's got to combine that intelligence with his natural instincts. it would be a shame if he gets turned into a robot.

now that he's going to end up on some random NFL team, I don't care about wins and losses, or mistakes. i want him to be real. i want him to inspire. i want him to play like jeff garcia, without being gay.

i want to see a QB that just finds a way to get first downs. somehow, someway, he'll pick up those 10 yards.

his instincts are so honed.

you can't measure instincts.

he can just sense things.

he needs an obi-wan kenobi type coach. someone who will remind him to "USE THE FORCE".

the NFL is full of idiots that think way too much (the houstan texans GM, for example. his "reasoning" was that because they play in the same division as the colts, they needed a pass rusher. WTF? and now I hear they want to draft Quinn?)

i want him to end up with a coach that is instinctual. a coach who can understand and respect troy for what he is, instead of trying to turn him into something that he's not.

i hope troy slides deep in the draft. i want him to be overlooked. i want him to be disrespected.

he got stroked by the media for 51 days.

troy, like most competitive people, do not respond well to being stroked.

he needs to be ignored. doubted.

the thing about troy, is that he has a PRESCENCE. i met him in 2003, before anyone knew who the hell he was. there was a look in his eye. it was as if he KNEW he was going to do something great.

listen to how his teammates talk about him. especially tony gonzalez. you can't measure troy's worth .... you just have to be AROUND him. and only his teammates can truly appreciate him. because they feed off him.

i really think that one of the reasons for that florida game, was the simple fact that troy wasn't around his teammates.

he is going to step into his NFL team, and very quickly, you are going to start reading about how his teammates want him starting. they might say politically correct things ..... but if you read between the lines .... they want him out there.

because he is a FIGHTER. he LEADS. he makes you BELIEVE.

in the same way that everyone loves playing with a great point guard .... all football players love playing for a guy like troy. they don't care what the coaches, media, and fans think .... they want to play for troy.

i remember in that '04 purdue game, troy's scrambling for a first down, and the safety comes to knock him out of bounds, and troy just lowers his shoulders and JACKS HIM UP. he doesn't get any extra yards out of it, but the entire OSU sideline behind him leaps into the air. you can almost hear them going "oh hell no!"

this is what i'm talking about. you can't measure this man. you can't quantify his worth.

the mind is only the tip of the iceberg. the great athletes, they play with their instincts, and with their SOUL. they develop their mind .... but they know when to turn it off. otherwise you suffer the "paralysis of analysis".

just watch those clips of troy. how in the hell can he sense pressure, right before he's about to get hit? you don't get that from watching film. that's INSTINCT.

if troy's going to have any chance in the NFL, he's got to trust his instinct. he's got to believe in his true self. he's been a quarterback from day 1. he just knows how to GET IT DONE. and i don't want some shitty NFL coach fucking around with his life. the NFL is filled with these idiots. i'm sick of them.

even though i'm a browns fan, i was a big fan of bill cowher. troy would thrive under a coach like him. or a dick vermeil. you get the picture.

the worst coach for troy, would be one who thinks he knows everything. a cold, sterile, calculating coach.

i personally want him in chicago. that team would embrace him instantly. that city would fall in love with him. and he'd lead them to the promised land.

but even if he never plays a down in the NFL ..... he has inspired me. more than this post could ever capture.

the title of the bill livingston column, after the 05 michigan game, sums it up best:

"Ohio boys will be Troys"

Two words...man crush.
 
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Indica;780500; said:
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i love tressel, but the fact that he stuck with zwick as long as he did .... i mean, what the hell.
Maybe he thought Troy wasn't mature enough to be The guy at tOSU, after the booster incident I won't argue against Tressel on that one.
..... i want him to play like jeff garcia, without being gay.
That's just plain funny....greenies for you.

I didn't really read anything after that, I was afraid you were going to start saying something about daydreaming at work and calling your girlfriend Troy in the heat of the moment :wink2:.
 
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Bottom line with Troy -

If you want a smart, proficient, mobile, cold as ice, with an accurate/strong arm who has done nothing but win big games you will draft Troy Smith. A leader, a true General on the football field. Also a guy who will inspire in the locker room and reperesent your team proudly you will draft Troy Smith. I have no doubt he will be a successful NFL QB when he gets the chance to prove it.
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man, who the fuck cares where he gets drafted.

i'm more interested in which team takes him.

he needs the right coach.

in my opinion, troy became a little too robotic. it was necessary for his development, but he can't forget his true instincts. he's got UNBELIEVABLE instincts. he needs a coach that will let him ball.

the first michigan game, and the final 2 drives of the 2nd michigan game ... he was just BALLING. and the 2nd half of that 2004 purdue game ... this is the troy smith that i know and love. the one who INSPIRES.

i am a fan of the troy smith that the media/buckeye fans hated. the "reformed" troy smith ..... i don't know.

he knows who he truly is. he needs a coach that believes in him.

i love tressel, but the fact that he stuck with zwick as long as he did .... i mean, what the hell.

now that troy has learned to watch film and be a student of the game ... he's got to combine that intelligence with his natural instincts. it would be a shame if he gets turned into a robot.

now that he's going to end up on some random NFL team, I don't care about wins and losses, or mistakes. i want him to be real. i want him to inspire. i want him to play like jeff garcia, without being gay.

i want to see a QB that just finds a way to get first downs. somehow, someway, he'll pick up those 10 yards.

his instincts are so honed.

you can't measure instincts.

he can just sense things.

he needs an obi-wan kenobi type coach. someone who will remind him to "USE THE FORCE".

the NFL is full of idiots that think way too much (the houstan texans GM, for example. his "reasoning" was that because they play in the same division as the colts, they needed a pass rusher. WTF? and now I hear they want to draft Quinn?)

i want him to end up with a coach that is instinctual. a coach who can understand and respect troy for what he is, instead of trying to turn him into something that he's not.

i hope troy slides deep in the draft. i want him to be overlooked. i want him to be disrespected.

he got stroked by the media for 51 days.

troy, like most competitive people, do not respond well to being stroked.

he needs to be ignored. doubted.

the thing about troy, is that he has a PRESCENCE. i met him in 2003, before anyone knew who the hell he was. there was a look in his eye. it was as if he KNEW he was going to do something great.

listen to how his teammates talk about him. especially tony gonzalez. you can't measure troy's worth .... you just have to be AROUND him. and only his teammates can truly appreciate him. because they feed off him.

i really think that one of the reasons for that florida game, was the simple fact that troy wasn't around his teammates.

he is going to step into his NFL team, and very quickly, you are going to start reading about how his teammates want him starting. they might say politically correct things ..... but if you read between the lines .... they want him out there.

because he is a FIGHTER. he LEADS. he makes you BELIEVE.

in the same way that everyone loves playing with a great point guard .... all football players love playing for a guy like troy. they don't care what the coaches, media, and fans think .... they want to play for troy.

i remember in that '04 purdue game, troy's scrambling for a first down, and the safety comes to knock him out of bounds, and troy just lowers his shoulders and JACKS HIM UP. he doesn't get any extra yards out of it, but the entire OSU sideline behind him leaps into the air. you can almost hear them going "oh hell no!"

this is what i'm talking about. you can't measure this man. you can't quantify his worth.

the mind is only the tip of the iceberg. the great athletes, they play with their instincts, and with their SOUL. they develop their mind .... but they know when to turn it off. otherwise you suffer the "paralysis of analysis".

just watch those clips of troy. how in the hell can he sense pressure, right before he's about to get hit? you don't get that from watching film. that's INSTINCT.

if troy's going to have any chance in the NFL, he's got to trust his instinct. he's got to believe in his true self. he's been a quarterback from day 1. he just knows how to GET IT DONE. and i don't want some shitty NFL coach fucking around with his life. the NFL is filled with these idiots. i'm sick of them.

even though i'm a browns fan, i was a big fan of bill cowher. troy would thrive under a coach like him. or a dick vermeil. you get the picture.

the worst coach for troy, would be one who thinks he knows everything. a cold, sterile, calculating coach.

i personally want him in chicago. that team would embrace him instantly. that city would fall in love with him. and he'd lead them to the promised land.

but even if he never plays a down in the NFL ..... he has inspired me. more than this post could ever capture.

the title of the bill livingston column, after the 05 michigan game, sums it up best:

"Ohio boys will be Troys"
And you go out and call Jeff Garcia gay but put up a man crush post about Troy and how he has positively effected you in just about every way... Dude... I don't want to call you the kettle but, "hi kettle". lol. I kid.
 
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The College Football All Star Challenge is on ESPN right now ...

Troy won the QB Long Distance challenge with a throw of 73 yards. Beat out Stanton, Leak, and Zabransky. In the clubhouse with the win, he used his second throw to show off his left arm, tossing one around 30-40 yards.
 
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Dryden;806363; said:
The College Football All Star Challenge is on ESPN right now ...

Troy won the QB Long Distance challenge with a throw of 73 yards. Beat out Stanton, Leak, and Zabransky. In the clubhouse with the win, he used his second throw to show off his left arm, tossing one around 30-40 yards.
Not trying to be a dick, but this has been airing for about a month and a half, if not more.
 
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USAToday

Is a Heisman jinx hurting Troy Smith's draft stock?


By Jim Corbett, USA TODAY

Think there's uncertainty projecting where JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn will be drafted?
Try forecasting where Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith will land.
TABLE: Is there a Heisman jinx?
The quarterback's stock took a roller-coaster ride from a career high of winning the Heisman after leading Ohio State to a 12-0 regular season and the Big Ten title to a forgettable finale against Florida in the Bowl Championship Series title game.
Winning the Heisman doesn't guarantee NFL success, especially for quarterbacks. Sure, there are Southern California golden boys Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart. But there also are Jason White, Eric Crouch, Danny Wuerffel, Gino Torretta, Chris Weinke and Andre Ware.
Where will Smith fall?

Cont...
 
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