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1. 8,850 for Art S
2. 7,151 for Bobby Hoying
Troy could realistically challenge Hoying(would need at least 1 more monster game) but has no shot at #1.
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1. 8,850 for Art S
2. 7,151 for Bobby Hoying
Troy could realistically challenge Hoying(would need at least 1 more monster game) but has no shot at #1.
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Total yardage (career): 7th with 5983 yards, needs 514 yards to finish 3rd, current pace (230 ypg in 2006) would give him 7135 yards.
Schlichter 8850 yards
Hoying 7151 yards
Bellisari 6496 yards
Smith 5983 yards
Passing yards (career) 8th all-time (4893), needs 986 yards to finish fifth with at least 5879 (Bellisari; Frey is 4th with 6316).
Total yardage (single-season) on pace for 2991 yards, third all time (Himself 2005, 2893)
Passing yards (single-season) on pace for 2787 yards, third all time (Hoying 1995, 3265)
TDs responsible for (career) 58, 3rd all time (Schlichter 85, Hoying 61).
TDs responsible for (season) on pace for 32, tops all-time (Hoying 1995, 31)
Games gaining 200 yds. (career) 18, tops all-time (Bellisari, Hoying, Schlichter 16)
Schlichter 8850 yards
Hoying 7151 yards
Bellisari 6496 yards
Smith 5983 yards
Passing yards (career) 8th all-time (4893), needs 986 yards to finish fifth with at least 5879 (Bellisari; Frey is 4th with 6316).
Total yardage (single-season) on pace for 2991 yards, third all time (Himself 2005, 2893)
Passing yards (single-season) on pace for 2787 yards, third all time (Hoying 1995, 3265)
TDs responsible for (career) 58, 3rd all time (Schlichter 85, Hoying 61).
TDs responsible for (season) on pace for 32, tops all-time (Hoying 1995, 31)
Games gaining 200 yds. (career) 18, tops all-time (Bellisari, Hoying, Schlichter 16)
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Schlichter started for four years and Hoying three. Troy started only half the season in 2004 and missed the bowl game. Assuming he goes injury free this will be the only complete season of his career.
In terms of attempts, Schlichter had 951 and Hoying 858. Smith is sitting at 552 after the IU game. That is 58% of Sclichter's career total with 5 games to go in his career.
Schlichter's highest QB rating was 145. Hoying's 163. Smith finished last year at 162 and is at 176 right now.
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TheStoicPaisano
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Dryden;643877; said:
Apparently. Schlichter is listed with 48 games under career passing YPG and Hoying with 13 games in 1994-5 (season passing YPG).
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Of course not, Troy will have a Heisman and two national championship rings when he leaves. Oh, and he took Mechanics of Throwing a Football 101 during his time in college, which is a course that apparently wasn't available to Vince.George W. Bush;643891; said:
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Ohio State's Smith takes the modesty route
By Dean Spiros
McClatchy Newspapers
(MCT)
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Troy Smith has the chance to do something no other Ohio State quarterback has done in 70 years: beat Michigan three times. Should the senior from Cleveland succeed in keeping the top-ranked Buckeyes undefeated until that Nov. 18 season-ending showdown, the rabid fans in Columbus might think seriously about building a statue in Smith's honor.
The rest of college football will have to settle for presenting him with one.
Smith strengthened his grip on the Heisman Trophy last Saturday, leading the way as the Buckeyes dismantled Indiana, 44-3. Ohio State is skilled on both sides of the ball, but its offense gets touted as the most explosive in the country. Wide receivers Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez and running backs Antonio Pittman are stars in their own right, but it is Smith who shines the brightest.
"Being consistent and staying the course is what we want to be about," Smith said. "I like to focus on my team's success, not just my personal success."
Next up are the Gophers, with Smith representing the most dangerous of OSU's not-at-all secret weapons the Minnesota will be hard-pressed to defuse Saturday at Ohio Stadium.
Smith threw four touchdown passes against the overmatched Hoosiers. His second, a 31-yarder to Ginn, showcased the rare combination of talents that makes him special.
Escaping pressure from the Indiana defense, Smith scrambled to his left. With another defender bearing down on him, Smith fired a strike off his back foot to Ginn in the left corner of the end zone.
Smith's teammates have seen it all before.
"You feel like your playing a video game when you watch the plays Troy makes," said OSU middle linebacker James Laurinaitis, a sophomore out of Wayzata High School.
Smith's numbers certainly are impressive. He has thrown 21 touchdown passes and only two interceptions, completing 67.9 percent of his passes.
When he met the media following the victory over Indiana, Smith spent a good deal of time thanking the Buckeyes defense for its contributions, the coaching staff for its play calling and the offensive line for its blocking. And he came across as someone who meant every word.
"He doesn't get caught up in his own hype," Buckeyes senior defensive end Jay Richardson said. "He hasn't said one thing about the Heisman since camp. It's all, `What can we do to get better as a team?' That's what I like about him."
Should Smith win the Heisman, he would become the first Buckeye to do so since running back Eddie George in 1995.
"I think more about what a national championship can do for the program than I do winning the Heisman," Smith said earlier this season. "It doesn't affect my state of mind because I know it's a team game first.
"Three of the last four guys who won the Heisman (Oklahoma's Jason White and USC's Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush) were part of teams that played in the national championship game. Without my team, that award can't be won."
Smith set himself up as one of the preseason favorites for the Heisman with an outstanding performance in last season's Fiesta Bowl. He threw for 342 yards and was named the game's most valuable player.
Smith further enhanced his candidacy when he threw for 269 yards and two touchdowns in a 24-7 victory at Texas on Sept. 9 that snapped the Longhorns' winning streak at 21 games.
Ohio State coach Jim Tressel praises Smith for his dedicated film study, his team-first approach and his desire to always get better.
"I have seen Troy grow tremendously, both on and off the field, in this past year," Tressel said. "He understands what we expect of him."
That was not the case in 2002 when Smith arrived as a man without a position. Recruited as "an athlete," Smith played a little running back, a little slot receiver and returned some kicks in his redshirt freshman season in 2003.
Smith began the following season as the backup quarterback before taking over for injured starter Justin Zwick in week seven. That season ended in controversy for Smith when it was discovered he had accepted $500 from an area employer but never did any work.
Smith was suspended for the 2004 Alamo Bowl and the first game of the 2005 season. By all accounts he has been a respectable representative of the program ever since.
"He's a great leader," Laurinaitis said. "Any time Troy gets on the field you know who is in charge. He's going to give everything he has for you. You can tell by the passion he plays with.
"We're all supportive of Troy. We all feel he is the best player in the country."
Ohio State's Smith takes the modesty route
By Dean Spiros
McClatchy Newspapers
(MCT)
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Troy Smith has the chance to do something no other Ohio State quarterback has done in 70 years: beat Michigan three times. Should the senior from Cleveland succeed in keeping the top-ranked Buckeyes undefeated until that Nov. 18 season-ending showdown, the rabid fans in Columbus might think seriously about building a statue in Smith's honor.
The rest of college football will have to settle for presenting him with one.
Smith strengthened his grip on the Heisman Trophy last Saturday, leading the way as the Buckeyes dismantled Indiana, 44-3. Ohio State is skilled on both sides of the ball, but its offense gets touted as the most explosive in the country. Wide receivers Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez and running backs Antonio Pittman are stars in their own right, but it is Smith who shines the brightest.
"Being consistent and staying the course is what we want to be about," Smith said. "I like to focus on my team's success, not just my personal success."
Next up are the Gophers, with Smith representing the most dangerous of OSU's not-at-all secret weapons the Minnesota will be hard-pressed to defuse Saturday at Ohio Stadium.
Smith threw four touchdown passes against the overmatched Hoosiers. His second, a 31-yarder to Ginn, showcased the rare combination of talents that makes him special.
Escaping pressure from the Indiana defense, Smith scrambled to his left. With another defender bearing down on him, Smith fired a strike off his back foot to Ginn in the left corner of the end zone.
Smith's teammates have seen it all before.
"You feel like your playing a video game when you watch the plays Troy makes," said OSU middle linebacker James Laurinaitis, a sophomore out of Wayzata High School.
Smith's numbers certainly are impressive. He has thrown 21 touchdown passes and only two interceptions, completing 67.9 percent of his passes.
When he met the media following the victory over Indiana, Smith spent a good deal of time thanking the Buckeyes defense for its contributions, the coaching staff for its play calling and the offensive line for its blocking. And he came across as someone who meant every word.
"He doesn't get caught up in his own hype," Buckeyes senior defensive end Jay Richardson said. "He hasn't said one thing about the Heisman since camp. It's all, `What can we do to get better as a team?' That's what I like about him."
Should Smith win the Heisman, he would become the first Buckeye to do so since running back Eddie George in 1995.
"I think more about what a national championship can do for the program than I do winning the Heisman," Smith said earlier this season. "It doesn't affect my state of mind because I know it's a team game first.
"Three of the last four guys who won the Heisman (Oklahoma's Jason White and USC's Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush) were part of teams that played in the national championship game. Without my team, that award can't be won."
Smith set himself up as one of the preseason favorites for the Heisman with an outstanding performance in last season's Fiesta Bowl. He threw for 342 yards and was named the game's most valuable player.
Smith further enhanced his candidacy when he threw for 269 yards and two touchdowns in a 24-7 victory at Texas on Sept. 9 that snapped the Longhorns' winning streak at 21 games.
Ohio State coach Jim Tressel praises Smith for his dedicated film study, his team-first approach and his desire to always get better.
"I have seen Troy grow tremendously, both on and off the field, in this past year," Tressel said. "He understands what we expect of him."
That was not the case in 2002 when Smith arrived as a man without a position. Recruited as "an athlete," Smith played a little running back, a little slot receiver and returned some kicks in his redshirt freshman season in 2003.
Smith began the following season as the backup quarterback before taking over for injured starter Justin Zwick in week seven. That season ended in controversy for Smith when it was discovered he had accepted $500 from an area employer but never did any work.
Smith was suspended for the 2004 Alamo Bowl and the first game of the 2005 season. By all accounts he has been a respectable representative of the program ever since.
"He's a great leader," Laurinaitis said. "Any time Troy gets on the field you know who is in charge. He's going to give everything he has for you. You can tell by the passion he plays with.
"We're all supportive of Troy. We all feel he is the best player in the country."
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OHIO STATE FOOTBALL
When play breaks down, Smith can still step up
Thursday, October 26, 2006
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
RENEE SAUER DISPATCH Troy Smith?s poise has helped make the Ohio State quarterback the favorite to win the Heisman Trophy on Dec. 9 in New York.
If Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith wins the Heisman Trophy, the presenters should consider changing the statue?s classic pose.
Instead of that stiff-armed ball carrier, Smith?s trophy should picture him with would-be tacklers hanging on, and Smith with his eyes up, right arm cocked to throw.
Time and again this season, Smith has shown an uncanny ability to ignore or escape from pressure and deliver pinpoint passes, often for touchdowns.
That poise is just one reason Smith is a favorite to win the award Dec. 9 in New York.
"He is amazing when there?s a guy hanging on him or someone gets in his way," center Doug Datish said. "He makes a perfect throw every time. He has an incredible ability to do that."
Lately, he has had a string of such highlight-reel plays.
Two weeks ago at Michigan State?s 7-yard line, Spartans linebacker Ervin Baldwin caught Smith by the shoulders. Smith pulled away, and as David Herron hit him high in the chest, he zipped a touchdown pass to Brian Robiskie in a tight space between two defenders.
ABC television analyst Paul Maguire said, "That?s quarterbacking at its finest."
Last week against Indiana, Smith did a 360-degree spin away from Keith Burrus. With Josh Bailey jumping in his face, Smith stopped and flung a 31-yard touchdown pass to Ted Ginn Jr.
"That?s the amazing ingenuity of Troy Smith," ESPN analyst Bill Curry said. "That?s not the way it?s drawn up, but neither is a lot of the stuff he does."
Much of Smith?s success in those situations comes from an innate awareness that only the best athletes possess.
"I think the really good ones are that way," said quarterbacks coach Joe Daniels, who was Dan Marino?s position coach at the University of Pittsburgh and was with the Buffalo Bills when Jim Kelly was there. "The guys that are able to step above the crowd, so to speak, they have that ability, and that?s what he has. I?ve been around a lot of good ones, and that?s a trait they have."
But Smith also has been taught how to give himself the best chance to get off a good pass under pressure. There are mechanics that can help a quarterback in that situation.
OSU coach Jim Tressel has worked with Smith extensively on his footwork. Tressel said the key is to keep the quarterback?s toes pointing toward the sideline, "in passing position."
After the Indiana game, Smith was asked about the TD to Ginn, and the first thing he talked about was mechanics.
"Any time you?re in a situation where you have to step up and throw or step up and go, we?re always taught to square our hips and square our shoulders to deliver the ball," Smith said. "The coaching staff really, really, really tries to ram that into our heads."
So there is some method to what looks like madness to the untrained eye. But again, much of what makes Smith so good under pressure comes from within.
And that?s what his coaches and teammates marvel at.
"He?s better than everybody else when there?s guys in his face," receiver Anthony Gonzalez said. "You put people around him, and it just doesn?t faze him."
Tressel said, "That?s one of his strengths. Troy?s got a lot of poise. It doesn?t bother him, all the stuff flying around. He?s still got his eyes up and his feet under him and reading what?s going on. He just has an ability to remain calm in a fiery situation."
If it looks fiery to his coach, Smith doesn?t seem to notice the flames. He?s intensely focused. What appears to be chaos to others obviously doesn?t to him.
"I can?t say that it?s crazy," he said. "There has never been a situation where I feel as if things are going haywire or berserk, simply because I?ve been through a lot thus far.
"If I?m in a situation where I know a hit is coming, I try to absorb it and withstand it. Hopefully, all the training I?ve put in will pay off and I?ll come out on top."
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OHIO STATE FOOTBALL
When play breaks down, Smith can still step up
Thursday, October 26, 2006
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
If Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith wins the Heisman Trophy, the presenters should consider changing the statue?s classic pose.
Instead of that stiff-armed ball carrier, Smith?s trophy should picture him with would-be tacklers hanging on, and Smith with his eyes up, right arm cocked to throw.
Time and again this season, Smith has shown an uncanny ability to ignore or escape from pressure and deliver pinpoint passes, often for touchdowns.
That poise is just one reason Smith is a favorite to win the award Dec. 9 in New York.
"He is amazing when there?s a guy hanging on him or someone gets in his way," center Doug Datish said. "He makes a perfect throw every time. He has an incredible ability to do that."
Lately, he has had a string of such highlight-reel plays.
Two weeks ago at Michigan State?s 7-yard line, Spartans linebacker Ervin Baldwin caught Smith by the shoulders. Smith pulled away, and as David Herron hit him high in the chest, he zipped a touchdown pass to Brian Robiskie in a tight space between two defenders.
ABC television analyst Paul Maguire said, "That?s quarterbacking at its finest."
Last week against Indiana, Smith did a 360-degree spin away from Keith Burrus. With Josh Bailey jumping in his face, Smith stopped and flung a 31-yard touchdown pass to Ted Ginn Jr.
"That?s the amazing ingenuity of Troy Smith," ESPN analyst Bill Curry said. "That?s not the way it?s drawn up, but neither is a lot of the stuff he does."
Much of Smith?s success in those situations comes from an innate awareness that only the best athletes possess.
"I think the really good ones are that way," said quarterbacks coach Joe Daniels, who was Dan Marino?s position coach at the University of Pittsburgh and was with the Buffalo Bills when Jim Kelly was there. "The guys that are able to step above the crowd, so to speak, they have that ability, and that?s what he has. I?ve been around a lot of good ones, and that?s a trait they have."
But Smith also has been taught how to give himself the best chance to get off a good pass under pressure. There are mechanics that can help a quarterback in that situation.
OSU coach Jim Tressel has worked with Smith extensively on his footwork. Tressel said the key is to keep the quarterback?s toes pointing toward the sideline, "in passing position."
After the Indiana game, Smith was asked about the TD to Ginn, and the first thing he talked about was mechanics.
"Any time you?re in a situation where you have to step up and throw or step up and go, we?re always taught to square our hips and square our shoulders to deliver the ball," Smith said. "The coaching staff really, really, really tries to ram that into our heads."
So there is some method to what looks like madness to the untrained eye. But again, much of what makes Smith so good under pressure comes from within.
And that?s what his coaches and teammates marvel at.
"He?s better than everybody else when there?s guys in his face," receiver Anthony Gonzalez said. "You put people around him, and it just doesn?t faze him."
Tressel said, "That?s one of his strengths. Troy?s got a lot of poise. It doesn?t bother him, all the stuff flying around. He?s still got his eyes up and his feet under him and reading what?s going on. He just has an ability to remain calm in a fiery situation."
If it looks fiery to his coach, Smith doesn?t seem to notice the flames. He?s intensely focused. What appears to be chaos to others obviously doesn?t to him.
"I can?t say that it?s crazy," he said. "There has never been a situation where I feel as if things are going haywire or berserk, simply because I?ve been through a lot thus far.
"If I?m in a situation where I know a hit is coming, I try to absorb it and withstand it. Hopefully, all the training I?ve put in will pay off and I?ll come out on top."
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kelluvsosu
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Am I going Crazy???? I recently watched ESPN and they were talking about considering Chad Henne for the Heisman. To me this is absolutely ridiculous. I am somewhat biased toward his team, but do the commentators actually watch this man play? Especially the first few games of the season. I think it' absolutely crazy that he might be considered.
I believe, that just like in the buckeye's previous games this is not even going to be close. I'm sure people are wanting a nail biter this year, but I'm sorry fellow fans, I don't think you're going to get that this season. My prediction---20 pt. lead.
And I know the competition for Troy is dismissal, but Chad Henne???? come on!
I believe, that just like in the buckeye's previous games this is not even going to be close. I'm sure people are wanting a nail biter this year, but I'm sorry fellow fans, I don't think you're going to get that this season. My prediction---20 pt. lead.
And I know the competition for Troy is dismissal, but Chad Henne???? come on!
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No one is better than stretching things than ESPN.kelluvsosu;644741; said:
stretching the truth
stretching Heisman candidacy they will say anything to make money and interest is how they do it.
It's all just ESPN BS
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#10Troy Smith;641803; said:
Uh, who is "everyone"? No one outside of some delusional Michigan fans expect Troy to fail against Michigan. He simply owns their asses...
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No surprise obviously, but congrats to Troy for being a semi-finalist for the Maxwell Award, given to the nation's best player.
From a Tennesee press release:
The announcement of the winner of the Maxwell Award occurs during the Home Depot College Football Awards Show on Dec. 7. Three finalists will be in attendance for the ESPN telecast.
.... The formal presentation of both awards is made at the Maxwell Football Club's Awards Dinner, to be held March 2, 2007, in Atlantic City, N.J.
Voting for these awards begins Nov. 3 and closes Dec. 1.
MAXWELL AWARD SEMIFINALISTS
Erik Ainge, Tennessee, QB, Jr.;
John David Booty, Southern California, QB, Jr.;
Michael Hart, Michigan, RB, Jr.;
Chad Henne, Michigan, QB, Jr.;
Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech, WR, Jr.;
Chris Leak, Florida, QB, Sr.;
Marshawn Lynch, California, RB, Jr.;
Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh, QB, Sr.;
Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma, RB, Jr.;
Brady Quinn, Notre Dame, QB, Sr.;
Ray Rice, Rutgers, RB, Soph.;
Steve Slaton, West Virginia, RB, Soph.;
Troy Smith, Ohio State, QB, Sr.;
Garrett Wolfe, Northern Illinois, RB, Sr.;
Jared Zabransky, Boise State, QB, Sr.
From a Tennesee press release:
The announcement of the winner of the Maxwell Award occurs during the Home Depot College Football Awards Show on Dec. 7. Three finalists will be in attendance for the ESPN telecast.
.... The formal presentation of both awards is made at the Maxwell Football Club's Awards Dinner, to be held March 2, 2007, in Atlantic City, N.J.
Voting for these awards begins Nov. 3 and closes Dec. 1.
MAXWELL AWARD SEMIFINALISTS
Erik Ainge, Tennessee, QB, Jr.;
John David Booty, Southern California, QB, Jr.;
Michael Hart, Michigan, RB, Jr.;
Chad Henne, Michigan, QB, Jr.;
Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech, WR, Jr.;
Chris Leak, Florida, QB, Sr.;
Marshawn Lynch, California, RB, Jr.;
Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh, QB, Sr.;
Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma, RB, Jr.;
Brady Quinn, Notre Dame, QB, Sr.;
Ray Rice, Rutgers, RB, Soph.;
Steve Slaton, West Virginia, RB, Soph.;
Troy Smith, Ohio State, QB, Sr.;
Garrett Wolfe, Northern Illinois, RB, Sr.;
Jared Zabransky, Boise State, QB, Sr.
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