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QB Kirk Herbstreit (Frosted Quips)

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Buckeye513;1891246; said:
Kirk Herbstreit said that no offensive recruit should want to play for Jim Tressel. That's about the equivalent of telling your son that he's such a dumbass that no girl should ever want to fuck him sober.
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Well you don't ever want the little motherfucker to think you are biased.
 
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BUCKYLE;1891299; said:
It's amazing how so many other guys get a paycheck from ESPN without going full retard on their former schools.
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I thought going "full retard," in one fashion or another, was a precondition of employment there.

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SmoovP;1891168; said:
We are often harshest with and hardest on the ones we love the most.
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SmoovP;1891225; said:
I have 4 sons. My expectations for them, because I love them so much, are much higher than my expectations for your son.

When they are fucking up, I am pretty hard on them because I truly believe that one of the most loving things I can do for them is to discipline them, even if they don't understand, think it is too harsh or not fair.

My wife, who loves them every bit as much as I do, doesn't have the exact same outlook or perspective on that. She thinks my discipline is sometimes too harsh.

And perhaps it is. She and I can disagree about that and still love them.


I say all that to say this: Perhaps Herbie is too harsh at times in what he says about OSU, but I doubt it is because he doesn't love the school.

If I were to guess, I'd have to say he is so harsh on OSU precisely because he loves it so much and his expectations are so high.

You may not agree with how he goes about expressing that, and that's fair, but to question his loyalty or love probably isn't.
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At first you were right, Herbie was bringing tough love to the program he loved. (ie the offensive recruit comments, which was around 2003/2004 when our offense was just plain horrible) But of late he seems to have a personal edge to his comments. Especially his spat with Pryor.

That loyalty/love for the program seems now to be of a jilted lover as he really not welcome inside the program anymore.
 
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BUCKYLE;1891299; said:
There's a whole thread dedicated to judging JT. He has pressure on him too.

It's amazing how so many other guys get a paycheck from ESPN without going full retard on their former schools.
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  1. I agree with you on this.
  2. But, nobody loves to hate their schools like people love to hate tOSU.
  3. Who, that speaks for more than 1 minute intervals, can you honestly say is impartial and unbiased on ESPN?
 
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kn1f3party;1891449; said:
  1. Who, that speaks for more than 1 minute intervals, can you honestly say is impartial and unbiased on ESPN?
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Jay Bilas. Barry Melrose. Several of their baseball analysts. They all do a decent job as far as I'm concerned.

There are also many examples of personalities being open about their allegiances and biased in a positive way towards their school with little or no concern about impartiality.
 
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Buckeye86;1891462; said:
Jay Bilas. Barry Melrose. Several of their baseball analysts. They all do a decent job as far as I'm concerned.

There are also many examples of personalities being open about their allegiances and biased in a positive way towards their school with little or no concern about impartiality.
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Where in the hell did Barry Melrose go to school?
 
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Buckeye86;1891462; said:
There are also many examples of personalities being open about their allegiances and biased in a positive way towards their school with little or no concern about impartiality.
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And I guess this is my point. He tries too hard to appear impartial and drags tOSU through the mud. Others don't really seem to care about being impartial 'journalists.'
 
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Excerpts from 11W's take on Herbie leaving Columbus:

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As a public service you should consider helping these unhelpful, hating assbags understand that while Tressel is certainly guilty by his own admission, Herbstreit?s public swipe at Ohioans on his way out of state was simply one last cheap shot at Buckeye fans who had the audacity to take exception to his seemingly unending hypocrisy, not be taken by his celebrity or mindlessly slurp up his empty Mad Libs analysis when it came to Ohio State football.

Herbstreit blamed the "vocal minority" of Buckeye fans for driving him out of Ohio while reiterating the hyperbolic claim that he is the world?s most ardent lover of Ohio State (that's what "no one loves Ohio State more than me" means, in case you're having trouble believing he said that). He cited five to 10 percent of Buckeye fans at fault for pushing him to relocate.

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Shame on the one out of 20 Buckeye fans who hurt Herbstreit?s feelings so badly that he had to pack up and move to Tennessee. You have to consider the state of Herbie's emotional intelligence or lack thereof; this is a 41-year old millionaire whose Twitter feed reads like it's written by a star-struck teenager. Regardless of the criticism from his home base, criticism and scrutiny are an integral element of celebrity. It comes with money and fame; it?s part of the lucrative package that comes with having your opinion aired on television, radio and print.

He has taken so many unwarranted swipes -- not critiques or criticisms; swipes -- at Ohio State that it became increasingly difficult to tolerate him on the national stage; his last swipe on his way out of town illustrates how poorly Herbstreit handles critics, whether their criticism is valid or not. For someone whose self-proclaimed love of Ohio State is greater than anyone else's, it screams of thin skin and a meager ego incapable of handling being challenged.

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Herbstreit's last swipe at Ohio State fans came during the most challenging week that they've had to face in years, probably going back to Troy Smith's aforementioned $500 handshake. On top of what he said, he has been trying to sell his Upper Arlington house for years -- moving isn't something he hastily decided to do last week. It's impossible to selectively throw just the unruly minority of any fan base under the bus, and he knows it. By implicating the fans for his move out of Ohio, he threw everyone under the bus, with impeccable timing to boot.
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http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/03/paradise-lost
 
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Herbstreit began his national broadcasting career by making a calculated effort to appear especially unbiased toward tOSU. I suppose he knew it was risky, but he thought he could gain respect as a journalist if he was especially hard on his alma mater. However, few can deny he has often pushed his positions too far, relative to his criticism of other persons and programs. Do I think he's a Buckeye at heart? Sure. (How could he not be?) But I think he has tried too hard. And it got personal. As a result, he has ceased to be a credible source of any analysis concerning tOSU. It's as if he's gone to the dark side.
 
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