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QB Justin Fields (2019-20 B1G Off POY, 2020 Silver Football, 2019 B1G CCG MVP, Pittsburgh Steelers)

Case in point; he didn't seem to suck too badly at throwing when he had Olave and Wilson to throw to.

Neither did Tebow when he was throwing to Percy Harvin.

Collegiate personnel playing in a college game against college defenses, you're just a bit too far going apples to oranges for my taste.

The next question becomes, at what point has the QB been given enough to succeed but (might) still handcuffs the offense? Can't answer that without giving JF tools to either succeed or fail.
The Bears made an investment into Fields. As important as the QB piece is on the board, it's still the quintessential team game and your QB needs a bit of corresponding NFL talent around him to maximize his potential.
 
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The only two reasons Poles trades Fields is one he didn’t draft him. Was he a Fields guy coming out of college. And the second reason because this is a multi year rebuild because he dismantled the D to start over he may want to reset the rookie QB wage scale. If he likes a QB he thinks is equal to Fields he gains those two years. As well as buying himself more time with the owners.
 
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Neither did Tebow when he was throwing to Percy Harvin.

Collegiate personnel playing in a college game against college defenses, you're just a bit too far going apples to oranges for my taste.

The next question becomes, at what point has the QB been given enough to succeed but (might) still handcuffs the offense? Can't answer that without giving JF tools to either succeed or fail.
The Bears made an investment into Fields. As important as the QB piece is on the board, it's still the quintessential team game and your QB needs a bit of corresponding NFL talent around him to maximize his potential.

This.

And JF, throughout his career in college and the NFL has taken entirely too many sacks.

It’s easy to blame the Bears o-line for its lack of talent, but it’s hard to explain away when you saw the same struggles at OSU with elite talent for 2 years. He definitely needs to learn how to process defenses a bit faster and get quicker making decisions.

I think that concern is enough for Chicago to not go full commitment at this point.

That said, Chicago is a bitch to play in and it’s never going to be stat friendly to a QB or a high powered passing offense. The fact that they have an athletic freak at QB who doesn’t need huge passing stats to succeed is a huge win for them. There’s few QBs that could thrive in their conditions and Fields should be one.

I think Chicago would be crazy to move on from him….especially if it were for a guy like Bryce Young…..Chicago (the weather conditions) would eat Young up come the fall.
 
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Neither did Tebow when he was throwing to Percy Harvin.

Collegiate personnel playing in a college game against college defenses, you're just a bit too far going apples to oranges for my taste.

The next question becomes, at what point has the QB been given enough to succeed but (might) still handcuffs the offense? Can't answer that without giving JF tools to either succeed or fail.
The Bears made an investment into Fields. As important as the QB piece is on the board, it's still the quintessential team game and your QB needs a bit of corresponding NFL talent around him to maximize his potential.

Interesting take that I read is that the OSU WR room makes it harder to transition to the NFL. Fields and Stroud get spoiled by multiple receivers getting Iinsane separation. They never truly learn how to throw into tight coverage on an every play basis or to learn how to trust their receivers to make those plays. That's a habit that Fields is still learning and without the benefit of a top tier target. Not to mention that he literally had his rookie year sabotaged by the coaching staff.

In any event, it would be absolutely inane of the Bears to trade Fields and roll the dice on another quarterback. Who's to say that Bryant or Stroud don't turn out to be this year's Mormon Leaf? So, Bears doing Bears shit, it's 50-50 that they will.
 
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That said, Chicago is a bitch to play in and it’s never going to be stat friendly to a QB or a high powered passing offense. The fact that they have an athletic freak at QB who doesn’t need huge passing stats to succeed is a huge win for them. There’s few QBs that could thrive in their conditions and Fields should be one.

Therein lies a great point. Weather is an equalizer and, just like Lambeau, I don't see Chicago going to a dome anytime soon. So the Bears need to build a competent passing game, work to continue developing JF, but at the end of the day need to be able to own the elements in their own crib when it comes playoff time. Rodgers the last few years might not be the greatest example, but Green Bay has found a fantastic balance between the passing game and putting a focus on the duo of Aaron Jones + AJ Dillon. The Bears need to work that formula while not going too far in any one direction of either over-reliance on Fields' legs, or in some cases forgetting about them entirely.

Interesting take that I read is that the OSU WR room makes it harder to transition to the NFL. Fields and Stroud get spoiled by multiple receivers getting Iinsane separation. They never truly learn how to throw into tight coverage on an every play basis or to learn how to trust their receivers to make those plays. That's a habit that Fields is still learning and without the benefit of a top tier target. Not to mention that he literally had his rookie year sabotaged by the coaching staff.

In any event, it would be absolutely inane of the Bears to trade Fields and roll the dice on another quarterback. Who's to say that Bryant or Stroud don't turn out to be this year's Mormon Leaf? So, Bears doing Bears shit, it's 50-50 that they will.

Re: The bold. That isn't quite where I was going in this instance. But since you bring it up, the QB's I always seem to love the most (with exceptions: Joe Burrow, Hurts) tend to do the most with the least around them. I love small(er) school passers who don't always have those 4 and 5 star prospects around them. Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, Matty Ice, to a lesser extent Derek Carr and midround dark horses that were Dak and Hurts. That's why I've made mention that there are some parts to Will Levis' game I really have enjoyed. He plays behind a suspect Oline and doesn't have much of a running game to help alleviate that issue. But there are flashes of the mental tools to go along with the very obvious physical gifts.

Because now you have to separate how much is on the QB, and how much is playing with such a swath of talent around him as a means of artificial elevation.
There was some good evidence JF was really getting it during that 2020 Clemson win. Even with a couple of the so-so reads, he still turned into darts because of his arm talent, and then some nice touch throws. Either way, I'm in agreement. Getting rid of JF this early and moving onto a rookie prospect would be to the detriment of CHI town. Instead of having a year 3 player they can expand the playbook on as they add talent, you'd be forced to bring in a rookie which re-condenses the playbook as he attempts to digest language, nuance, professional habits, receiver chemistry, coaching demands, NFL speed... etc etc.
 
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35431983/sources-chicago-bears-hire-kevin-warren-president-ceo

Lol….this dude can’t catch a break. So now the President of the Bears is the dude Fieds had to shame into having a Big 10 season bc he was playing politics and refused to concede he looked like an idiot as other conferences made it work.

If I’m Fields I prob just demand a trade at this point….lolz.

Good for the Big 10 though.
Warren won’t touch a thing. Just a new suit on his way to NFL commish. The guy is an empty bag that somehow keeps moving up in life.
 
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The stadium is already in the works is it not?
Yes. Out in the suburbs which pissed a lot of fans off evidently. The way the politics suck in that town Im surprised they get anything done at all.

they have a purchase agreement for the land out in the burbs but everything other than that is conceptual and not locked in yet. city is also making a last ditch effort to keep them downtown

Bears are pretty much certainly moving to the burbs but there’s a lot of work to be done on the detail and the what that entertainment district is going to look like, transit to the area, etc
 
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they have a purchase agreement for the land out in the burbs but everything other than that is conceptual and not locked in yet. city is also making a last ditch effort to keep them downtown

Bears are pretty much certainly moving to the burbs but there’s a lot of work to be done on the detail and the what that entertainment district is going to look like, transit to the area, etc
They need to keep them downtown if possible. Maybe they could play at NW while they torn down Soldier Field and built a new stadium there.
 
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