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QB Joe Burrow (transfer to LSU, 2019 Heisman Winner, National Champion, Cincinnati Bengals)

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NJ-Buckeye said:
You guys are missing my point... it's a simple one...
if a player I really like... doesn't play for OSU.. I'd prefer he go play for Luke Fickell
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No, we're well aware of your point....we just disagree with it. I'd rather see Joe play for a program (LSU) that has a legit shot at a NC, and not for a historical lightweight of a program that just happens to be led by a former OSU DC (who, by the way, just went 4-8, and 2-6 in conference).
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
No, we're well aware of your point....we just disagree with it. I'd rather see Joe play for a program (LSU) that has a legit shot at a NC, and not for a historical lightweight of a program that just happens to be led by a former OSU DC (who, by the way, just went 4-8, and 2-6 in conference).
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Maybe with JB that record improves. Not everyone shares your opinion by the way.

Not that any of this matters because the only opinion that matters is that of JB and his future coach/program.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
No, we're well aware of your point....we just disagree with it. I'd rather see Joe play for a program (LSU) that has a legit shot at a NC, and not for a historical lightweight of a program that just happens to be led by a former OSU DC (who, by the way, just went 4-8, and 2-6 in conference).
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If past woes are a detractor, then perhaps you should heed 27's comment.

I think UCLA would be an interesting fit.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
No, we're well aware of your point....we just disagree with it. I'd rather see Joe play for a program (LSU) that has a legit shot at a NC, and not for a historical lightweight of a program that just happens to be led by a former OSU DC (who, by the way, just went 4-8, and 2-6 in conference).
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If winning an NC was his ultimate goal wouldn’t have staying at OSU been his best odds?
I don’t know LSU’s depth chart at QB. But I do know UC’s and it sucks. He would be the day 1 starter at UC and be closer to home.
This is not the 70’s. Every college football game is on TV somewhere. If he wants the SEC for the sake of saying ‘I played in the SEC’ sure, go for it. But to think that his chances of making the NFL are inherently less at UC I would disageee based on the fact that many NFL starters have proven if you got the game the NFL will find you.
 
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Honor&Glory said:
This is not the 70’s. Every college football game is on TV somewhere. If he wants the SEC for the sake of saying ‘I played in the SEC’ sure, go for it. But to think that his chances of making the NFL are inherently less at UC I would disageee based on the fact that many NFL starters have proven if you got the game the NFL will find you.
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Weird perspective to have for a fan of a school that probably sells recruits on how many players they put in the league on a daily basis.

I don't particularly care where he goes, but Ohio sentiment aside, if you were in serious contention to be the starting QB for Urban Meyer's Ohio State, you're too good for Cincinnati.
 
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I’d hate to see Joey end up at LSU. It’s been a QB wasteland since Jimbo Fisher left as OC. They've gotten some highly rated guys, they just can't develop them. I really hope Joey avoids Baton Rouge.....I hate UF, but at least he'd be in Mullens system, and I think Burrow has some similar traits to Nick Fitzgerald who has been pretty good.

UCLA would be amazing for obvious reasons. It's unfortunate they already made a big push and landed Wilton Speight. I'm not sure I see Kelly bringing in two grad-tansfer QB's unless there's a way for him to find a landing spot for Speight.

USC (Southern Cal) could use an experienced QB.

TCU would be a great fit. Their current projected starter is a career 6 of 17 passer and not highly regarded.

FAU under Lane Kiffin would be an amazing fit. They'd light up the scoreboard, and he'd be in an offensively friendly system. De'Andre Johnson is likely starter at moment, but missed almost all of last year with blood clots in arm. Chris Robinson transferred to FAU to compete, but I think Burrow would be head and shoulders above those guys.

Washington State....after unfortunate situation of their starting QB for 2018, Mike Leach is looking. Burrow would be fun in that system. RIP Tyler Hilinski.

Texas TECH....Another QB friendly offense with limited talent at QB. Wide open race. He'd come in and start day 1.

Even Arkansas would be a much better fit....go play for Chad Morris, who has limited talent at QB right now.

Oklahoma State under Mike Gundy. Obviously Rudolph has left, and their next guy is likely Dru Brown, a former transfer from Hawaii. But it's an open battle with a walk-on QB. They aren't set at the position at all.

Memphis needs to replace Tyler Ferguson. Another QB friendly offense that puts good talent around their QB relative to their competition in conference. They don'y have a guy highly regarded stepping into that role next year.

I don't like the Cincy or Ohio University choices. The Bobcats actually have a good QB in Nathan Rourke who would compete for the job. And honestly, I wouldn't trust my career at UC where they’re just trying to get the program off the ground.

I could probably list 3 or 4 more options better than LSU.......I just think that'd be a really bad choice. Honestly, I'd advise him to stay at tOSU and develop under Day, than transfer to LSU. And I fully support his transfer decision.....just don't go to a team coached by Ed Orgeron and a conference where if you're not 100% dialed in (from HC to OC to QB coach, etc.) you look silly.
 
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billmac91 said:
I’d hate to see Joey end up at LSU. It’s been a QB wasteland since Jimbo Fisher left as OC. They've gotten some highly rated guys, they just can't develop them. I really hope Joey avoids Baton Rouge.....I hate UF, but at least he'd be in Mullens system, and I think Burrow has some similar traits to Nick Fitzgerald who has been pretty good.

UCLA would be amazing for obvious reasons. It's unfortunate they already made a big push and landed Wilton Speight. I'm not sure I see Kelly bringing in two grad-tansfer QB's unless there's a way for him to find a landing spot for Speight.

USC (Southern Cal) could use an experienced QB.

TCU would be a great fit. Their current projected starter is a career 6 of 17 passer and not highly regarded.

FAU under Lane Kiffin would be an amazing fit. They'd light up the scoreboard, and he'd be in an offensively friendly system. De'Andre Johnson is likely starter at moment, but missed almost all of last year with blood clots in arm. Chris Robinson transferred to FAU to compete, but I think Burrow would be head and shoulders above those guys.

Washington State....after unfortunate situation of their starting QB for 2018, Mike Leach is looking. Burrow would be fun in that system. RIP Tyler Hilinski.

Texas TECH....Another QB friendly offense with limited talent at QB. Wide open race. He'd come in and start day 1.

Even Arkansas would be a much better fit....go play for Chad Morris, who has limited talent at QB right now.

Oklahoma State under Mike Gundy. Obviously Rudolph has left, and their next guy is likely Dru Brown, a former transfer from Hawaii. But it's an open battle with a walk-on QB. They aren't set at the position at all.

Memphis needs to replace Tyler Ferguson. Another QB friendly offense that puts good talent around their QB relative to their competition in conference. They don'y have a guy highly regarded stepping into that role next year.

I don't like the Cincy or Ohio University choices. The Bobcats actually have a good QB in Nathan Rourke who would compete for the job. And honestly, I wouldn't trust my career at UC where they’re just trying to get the program off the ground.

I could probably list 3 or 4 more options better than LSU.......I just think that'd be a really bad choice. Honestly, I'd advise him to stay at tOSU and develop under Day, than transfer to LSU. And I fully support his transfer decision.....just don't go to a team coached by Ed Orgeron and a conference where if you're not 100% dialed in (from HC to OC to QB coach, etc.) you look silly.
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Stanford?
 
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Honor&Glory said:
This is not the 70’s. Every college football game is on TV somewhere. If he wants the SEC for the sake of saying ‘I played in the SEC’ sure, go for it. But to think that his chances of making the NFL are inherently less at UC I would disageee based on the fact that many NFL starters have proven if you got the game the NFL will find you.
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Actually, my post had nothing to do with the NFL. That said, if he crushes it at each place (LSU and Cincinnati), you're fooling yourself if you think he won't be better positioned in the draft if he does so in Baton Rouge.
 
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billmac91 said:
I’d hate to see Joey end up at LSU. It’s been a QB wasteland since Jimbo Fisher left as OC. They've gotten some highly rated guys, they just can't develop them. I really hope Joey avoids Baton Rouge.....I hate UF, but at least he'd be in Mullens system, and I think Burrow has some similar traits to Nick Fitzgerald who has been pretty good.

UCLA would be amazing for obvious reasons. It's unfortunate they already made a big push and landed Wilton Speight. I'm not sure I see Kelly bringing in two grad-tansfer QB's unless there's a way for him to find a landing spot for Speight.

USC (Southern Cal) could use an experienced QB.

TCU would be a great fit. Their current projected starter is a career 6 of 17 passer and not highly regarded.

FAU under Lane Kiffin would be an amazing fit. They'd light up the scoreboard, and he'd be in an offensively friendly system. De'Andre Johnson is likely starter at moment, but missed almost all of last year with blood clots in arm. Chris Robinson transferred to FAU to compete, but I think Burrow would be head and shoulders above those guys.

Washington State....after unfortunate situation of their starting QB for 2018, Mike Leach is looking. Burrow would be fun in that system. RIP Tyler Hilinski.

Texas TECH....Another QB friendly offense with limited talent at QB. Wide open race. He'd come in and start day 1.

Even Arkansas would be a much better fit....go play for Chad Morris, who has limited talent at QB right now.

Oklahoma State under Mike Gundy. Obviously Rudolph has left, and their next guy is likely Dru Brown, a former transfer from Hawaii. But it's an open battle with a walk-on QB. They aren't set at the position at all.

Memphis needs to replace Tyler Ferguson. Another QB friendly offense that puts good talent around their QB relative to their competition in conference. They don'y have a guy highly regarded stepping into that role next year.

I don't like the Cincy or Ohio University choices. The Bobcats actually have a good QB in Nathan Rourke who would compete for the job. And honestly, I wouldn't trust my career at UC where they’re just trying to get the program off the ground.

I could probably list 3 or 4 more options better than LSU.......I just think that'd be a really bad choice. Honestly, I'd advise him to stay at tOSU and develop under Day, than transfer to LSU. And I fully support his transfer decision.....just don't go to a team coached by Ed Orgeron and a conference where if you're not 100% dialed in (from HC to OC to QB coach, etc.) you look silly.
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Honestly I like LSU...good physical running game and normally athletic out wife.

They just haven't had a good QB literally since Matt Flynn... sure they've had some athletic guys come in but they were not as gifted throwing at Joe.

The SEC in general is void of QB mostly anyways. I'd love to see him there and I think it will be based off their depth chart. Joe would be a shoe in to start
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
Just to be clear then, you're disagreeing with my point? If so, I'd love to hear the reasoning.
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Burrow is an upgrade over at least a hundred starting quarterbacks in college football, so naturally his talent level is a bit above Cincinnati.

His potential is so good that the thought of him going to LSU is far more questionable. They are probably the worst developer of QBs in the entire country over the last decade or so. Unless there's a meaningful reason to know that is changed, that would be a much scarier proposition then going to a smaller school like Cincinnati.

Again, a great system like Chip Kelly's would be phenomenal for Joe. Florida makes a lot of sense as well, but the level of competition is tougher. Much easier to turn things around with LA Talent and pac12 defenses.
 
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Thump said:
Stanford?
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Stanford would be amazing, but I think Shaw is pretty committed to Costello. I would say, I'm not sure Burrow is a great fit in that system. Burrow has a nice skillset, but Stanford likes a proto-typical QB with a strong arm. Burrow's arm strength has improved in Columbus, but it's still quite average from a college perspective. He can spin the ball, don't get me wrong, but he's more of a touch thrower and anticipates where the ball needs to be. Which is fine, he just doesn't have a rifle like Haskins or Cardale Jones. You can work with that type of QB in the right system. I'm not sure Stanford meets that criteria, especially when they're trying to get Costello to grab the reigns and run.
 
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