scarletngray
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I think Jack will do well under Day and Yourich's tutelage. Really excited about him being a Buckeye.
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Agreed. Jack seems as solid as it gets for knowing we're going to add a second QB. If there is any silver lining to how loose the transfer portal is now, maybe it's that you can bring in 2 QBs to fight it out and the one loses out knows they can freely transfer? All I know is both would have a great opportunity to learn under Fields, then be ready to fight for a starting job their RS freshman year at Ohio State. Pretty unique opportunity.
I think Jack is a competitor and key cog of this class. As of today, I would be surprised to see him land anywhere else.
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The reason that we offered Stroud is there will only 3 QB's on scholarship next year without him.
The reason Miller has dropped is the injuries.
In the day of the transfer portal, it makes more sense than ever to pick the school that will develop you best.
Day wants both Stroud and Miller and so do I
The reason Miller has dropped is the injuries.
In the day of the transfer portal, it makes more sense than ever to pick the school that will develop you best.
Day wants both Stroud and Miller and so do I
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7 Heismans
And counting...
If Jack wrote a comment that can be perceived as being unfavorable toward Ohio State, then the deletion of said comment is a good thing, not bad.
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Everything is different now with the transfer portal.
The logic that "I'll go compete and if I lose out on the job transfer" coupled with "while I am competing I may as well get the best QB coaching/NFL prep system that I can" could absolutely be at play (and a major weapon in OSU's recruiting favor).
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I don't blame you on the skepticism, QB is a tough position to pull that off. I think it can be done, but not easily. Really wanting it to happen, but I'm far from thinking it's a sure thing. But as has been mentioned, it could happen with the current state of the transfer portal.
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Exactly
Point to him and say come here compete and even if you don't win out, go get the starting job at another top shelf P5 school
Maybe the new reality is you never get to keep 2 studs in the same class but you can get them to come in together and have them as depth for a year or two.
Just a theory
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Thats not a guess, that IS the new reality of CFB. The example has been set, no by just 2 QBs highly ranked coming in the same class, but multiple highly rated QBs being on the same roster, no longer will exist long term(i.e.: Burrow, Fields, Jacob Eason, Jalen Hurts, Hunter Johnson, etc). The hard and honest truth is, if both players come in healthy and compete, the loser of the QB competition is entering the portal, it is what it is. The backups will come from the transfer portal free agency, and no longer will teams be able to stockpile highly recruited guys at QB, they will leave once they see that they will not get the starting job. The QB rooms will have to be filled with the Hoaks and Chugs of the world(lower recruited guys who still have D1 talent, just not elite talent to have a shot at a professional career).
Good article on the changing QB landscape
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...sfer-surge-causing-coaches-adjust/1141765001/
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Agreed.
I'm wondering out loud if OSU can have a major recruiting advantage with QB's due to Day and the offense being a destination spot for the elite's? Seems likely
If that's true then, can you work the model where you have 2 incoming elite 11 types to help minimize (or eliminate) the need for the Chug/Hoak types to ever be any higher than, say, 3rd on the depth chart?
I think if you staggered them 2 years behind your current starter it could look something like this in any given year;
Year 1
Freshman class: 2 Elite 11 true freshmen (Miller +1 in '21)
Soph: empty/portal filler
JR: Starter
SR: empty/portal filler
Year 2
Freshman: 2 Elite 11 types
Soph/RS Frosh: survivor of last year's Elite 11 freshmen
JR: empty/1 portal filler
SR: Starter
Year 3
Freshmen: 2 Elite 11 (2)
Soph/rsFR: survivor of year 2 Elite 11 class (1)
JR: Starter from year 1 frosh survivor (1)
So give or take, by year 3 you could be back to the model by which all if not most of your 4 QB's in the room are actual OSU level talent. You can have an occasional Hoak/Chug type to keep your number to 4 on any given year but if you can work it so that they are rarely, if ever, only 1 snap away from being a starter then you should enjoy a huge advantage.
Getting Elite 11 types to want to come to your school and be willing to sit a year or two in return for the development could allow OSU to have a quality of QB depth that few others could compete with.
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Thats a major IF, and the staff has to not only be great at recruiting, but at reading the minds of teenagers and their families even more. The right type of kid with the right mentality can make this system work. I'm just worried about the big ego elite 1 kids like a Martell who could throw a monkey wrench in the plan
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BuckTwenty
Parties with Pete Johnson's Beard
Justin Zwick and Troy Smith
That was before recruiting rankings really were galvanized, but Zwick was a ballyhooed blue chip and Troy Smith was the young up and comer with lots of potential
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Different time, one of them would've been gone in this era. Just like I doubt we would've had Cardale in 2014 if the transfer portal were around. No way is a former 3star with a cannon arm sitting
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