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QB J.T. Barrett (B1G FOY, All American, Silver Football Award, 3x B1G QBOY, National Champion)

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buckeyebri said:
I think this offense is built for a QB like JT. It seems with Cardale is all about the deep ball or the check down. JT gets the ball out quickly and usually on target. Cardale seems to hold the ball too long. JT runs the read option much better, is quicker and puts more pressure on the defense.
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JT makes fantastic reads and decisions. But he is not the super accurate QB that people love to portray him to be. He has okay accuracy but he misses plenty of open receivers, usually on crossing routes toward the middle of the field (and somehow always misses a wide-open Dontre Wilson, poor guy). His completion % is boosted heavily by forward tosses and swing passes.
 
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Michael Bluth said:
JT makes fantastic reads and decisions. But he is not the super accurate QB that people love to portray him to be. He has okay accuracy but he misses plenty of open receivers, usually on crossing routes toward the middle of the field (and somehow always misses a wide-open Dontre Wilson, poor guy). His completion % is boosted heavily by forward tosses and swing passes.
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64% completion percentage is plenty accurate enough. Wasn't that enough for most accurate tosu QB ever? I agree he seems to sail wide open guys particularly on crossing routes but as has been said this offense IMO is better suited for someone like JT. We need someone who can get the ball to all our play makers within 20 yards of the LOS not someone who can bomb it down field to our deep threat WR who doesn't exist.

If we had a WR who could stretch the field I'd say Cardale is your guy but right now we have zero WR's who can get behind a defense. Not a knock on our WR's because I find all of them really good at making you miss and picking up YAC (plus I love what Michael Thomas brings) but we need someone who can go up and get a ball which I'm not sure we have. Personally I'd like to think Gibson could give us that vertical weapon but what do I know other than he's 6'4", can run, and can jump?

Until someone emerges though as our deep threat I sort of feel this offense is better suited with JT and running the triple option more or less then going play action.
 
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jwinslow said:
The offense had a gaggle of dumb penalties and Billy Price has been getting whipped on passing downs so far this year , even when the level of competition was terrible.

The blocking on running plays was sloppy and uninspiring on many downs which is typically their calling card.

Let's hope they were just unfocused and tired (at least mentally).
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Yes, let's hope that. I for one think that that's exactly what the problem was. Never want to see us play another Monday night game.
 
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Definitely was high with the ball Saturday, but I didn't notice a 'trend' last year. @Michael Bluth Is this a throwaway account for a regular?

Only thing I came to say is: if you have two QBs you have no QB. No rhythm on Saturday. Urban is between a rock & a hard place, but, that's why you get paid the big bucks.
 
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Bleed S & G said:
Definitely was high with the ball Saturday, but I didn't notice a 'trend' last year. @Michael Bluth Is this a throwaway account for a regular?

Only thing I came to say is: if you have two QBs you have no QB. No rhythm on Saturday. Urban is between a rock & a hard place, but, that's why you get paid the big bucks.
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He had games (Michigan State) where he was absolutely perfect and did not miss. He had other games (Indiana, parts of Rutgers & Illinois) where he missed some open guys pretty badly, and usually high. It seems like everyone tends to forget the bad throws (and rightfully so) because his numbers are always great at the end and we were putting up a lot of points... so why fret?

Don't take this as criticism, simply an observation. JT is a fantastic and dynamic quarterback...but it's because of his impeccable timing and decision making, not some sort of deadly accuracy.

I'm of the opinion the lack of rhythm on Saturday had more to do with offensive line play and lack of preparation than rotating QBs. I have full faith Warriner will get the o-line back on track.
 
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Buckeyebred97 said:
I think JT offers a better dual threat than Cardale. Not as big and won't truck LB's but he is quicker and more decisive in decision making. I think that decisiveness is what makes him a great team leader. Guess we'll find out next week. If they are going to make a change it needs to happen sooner than later.
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I agree with this statement......but.....

Having Braxton nullifies this advantage for JT. If you start Cardale and still want to get the QB running game going, Miller can just motion over and take some snaps. I think that is the wildcard in Urban's mind. You get Cardale's arm to stretch the field, but you don't lose any of the QB run game with Brax in the game.
 
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Tlangs said:
I agree with this statement......but.....

Having Braxton nullifies this advantage for JT. If you start Cardale and still want to get the QB running game going, Miller can just motion over and take some snaps. I think that is the wildcard in Urban's mind. You get Cardale's arm to stretch the field, but you don't lose any of the QB run game with Brax in the game.
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You do lose a little because Brax hasn't thrown it yet. Once he does, I'm 100% with you.
 
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Tlangs said:
I agree with this statement......but.....

Having Braxton nullifies this advantage for JT. If you start Cardale and still want to get the QB running game going, Miller can just motion over and take some snaps. I think that is the wildcard in Urban's mind. You get Cardale's arm to stretch the field, but you don't lose any of the QB run game with Brax in the game.
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I'm with you there. I hope they open the playbook more for Braxton in that wildcat situation. Too many times we've seen him keep it while behind center. If they run the zone read or any play with him back there everyone knows he is keeping it. If they do a play where Brax gives it to someone in that little forward pitch(that counts as a pass) or the speed option with Zeke or an H-B or as I mentioned the read option I think that sets up the wildcat far better in the future.
 
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Tlangs said:
I agree with this statement......but.....

Having Braxton nullifies this advantage for JT. If you start Cardale and still want to get the QB running game going, Miller can just motion over and take some snaps. I think that is the wildcard in Urban's mind. You get Cardale's arm to stretch the field, but you don't lose any of the QB run game with Brax in the game.
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I tend to disagree. The benefit of dual threat is that one guy can do both. We've really not seen Brax throw this year. He's a dynamic runner, but right now he's not a dual threat. When he slides over, it's pretty clear that he's going to be running and the D can adjust... and the two Ds we've seen this year have done so fairly sucessfully thus far.

Now, that all said, if this is a game of chess, Urb is setting someone up big time for when he does throw. But thus far, it's been pretty clear that it's a Brax run when he is behind center.

Have we seen a read option with Brax and Eze yet? That could be very interesting. I'll have to go back to watch a bit closer, but that's where we could see some serious dual threats... but not in the normal sense of the phrase.
 
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He still has yet to hand the ball off either. Still a ton of things that Brax can do that he has yet to show. Maybe it's vanilla in these schemes until we get closer to MSU. Don't really need anything but to line up and smoke the teams we're playing now.
 
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Tlangs said:
I agree with this statement......but.....

Having Braxton nullifies this advantage for JT. If you start Cardale and still want to get the QB running game going, Miller can just motion over and take some snaps. I think that is the wildcard in Urban's mind. You get Cardale's arm to stretch the field, but you don't lose any of the QB run game with Brax in the game.
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I couldn't disagree more. JT has shown he makes better reads than both Cardale and Braxton imo. If nothing else he seems the most willing if the three to put the ball in someone else's hands. The thought of Eze, Brax, and JT running the Urban triple option version is enough to give me wood for days. Now throw in JW, DW, and CS.....good gracious. The super quadruple option? I mean if you throw tempo in on that, there won't be a defense in the country that can go 4 quarters.
 
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