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QB J.T. Barrett (B1G FOY, All American, Silver Football Award, 3x B1G QBOY, National Champion)

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
You're right, you can. Because people say things that amount to "whatever the coach does is right" all day long. The frequency of such comments doesn't change the fact that it's nonsense.
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Yes I agree with Urban allowing him to be in the booth and address the team. That is my opinion, so accept or reject as you see fit. Obviously you don't and that is fine, it is your opinion and I respect it. That is no different than the fact that I respect Urban and the teams decision on this matter over others who are not involved with the program, which was my original point.

Let me be clear, that I would not have agreed with JT being allowed to suit up and be on the sidelines and or play in the second half. I would have voiced that opinion had it occurred. Again, above you are inserting comments that would insinuate I believe certain things, which I don't. I am not a lemming of the "whatever the coach does is right" philosophy. Feel free to go back to the "I'm not all in thread on another JT" if you are so inclined.

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Hetuck said:
I don't think any players suspended by Jim Tressel were ever allowed to attend games on the sideline or in the booth. I don't recall any doing so under Cooper either but that was a long time ago. I'd be shocked if they were allowed to by Earle or Woody.

I thought it was ridiculous that Jameis was allowed to suit up and watch the game from the sideline during his suspension.

Barrett has a better reputation than Winston. And of course I'm biased because I'd like to see OSU repeat as national champions so it's easy to rationalize that Urban's punishment is perfectly acceptable.

But seeing Barrett in the press box seemed unseemly to me. Yeah, it might help him get better so he can win more games. But it also teaches him that he's special and the rules that apply to others don't necessarily apply to him because he can help us win football games.

I really don't care that much. But if you're defending it, just be consistent. Make sure you don't criticize any other coaches for doing the same thing. And be honest with yourself about what's going on when the second stringer who gets a DUI doesn't receive the same treatment.
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I see a difference between being on the sideline with a jersey on rather than being in the pressbox.

By putting him in the booth he ensured JT was surrounded by coaches and supervision, and kept it buisness only all game long. Being on the sideline would allow him to joke around with friends, and treat it as a fun time celebrating (the same stuff he would be permitted to do by not being at the game).

I think all suspended players should be mandated to attend the game and sit upstairs. At least you know they aren't out partying and drinking during the game (especially if it's a weak sauce OOC oppponent). This teaches them that yes you got in trouble, but you are still going to go to work, but no you arent going to be able to joke with friends - you are going to be productive and learn while sitting out.
 
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SEREbuckeye said:
I see a difference between being on the sideline with a jersey on rather than being in the pressbox.

By putting him in the booth he ensured JT was surrounded by coaches and supervision, and kept it buisness only all game long. Being on the sideline would allow him to joke around with friends, and treat it as a fun time celebrating (the same stuff he would be permitted to do by not being at the game).

I think all suspended players should be mandated to attend the game and sit upstairs. At least you know they aren't out partying and drinking during the game (especially if it's a weak sauce OOC oppponent). This teaches them that yes you got in trouble, but you are still going to go to work, but no you arent going to be able to joke with friends - you are going to be productive and learn while sitting out.
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Prepare to be upset when Urban doesn't follow your mandate. I think you're rationalizing.

Why suspend him at all? Or why not just suspend him for a half? Or just the first series? He's a good kid. He learned his lesson. Just make him run a bunch of gassers 'til he pukes at practice then let him play.

They kept him off the field but they still let him "play" in the sense that they let him help contribute. And speaking to the team at halftime when he's "suspended?" What message does that send.

Whatever happened to "Go to your room and think about what you've done?" Sitting at home and watching the game on tv by yourself sends a very strong message. Just ask Troy Smith. Or was Tressel wrong not to let him go along with the team to San Antonio, or to attend the opener against Miami?
 
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