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QB J.T. Barrett (B1G FOY, All American, Silver Football Award, 3x B1G QBOY, National Champion)

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I don't think any players suspended by Jim Tressel were ever allowed to attend games on the sideline or in the booth. I don't recall any doing so under Cooper either but that was a long time ago. I'd be shocked if they were allowed to by Earle or Woody.

I thought it was ridiculous that Jameis was allowed to suit up and watch the game from the sideline during his suspension.

Barrett has a better reputation than Winston. And of course I'm biased because I'd like to see OSU repeat as national champions so it's easy to rationalize that Urban's punishment is perfectly acceptable.

But seeing Barrett in the press box seemed unseemly to me. Yeah, it might help him get better so he can win more games. But it also teaches him that he's special and the rules that apply to others don't necessarily apply to him because he can help us win football games.

I really don't care that much. But if you're defending it, just be consistent. Make sure you don't criticize any other coaches for doing the same thing. And be honest with yourself about what's going on when the second stringer who gets a DUI doesn't receive the same treatment.
 
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I'm not going to agree or disagree with anyone's opinion on JT's whereabouts on Saturday. I can see both sides, and it's like parenting-not my team in this case, so I go with the coach's decision.

My initial thought when I saw JT in the box was: Urban is keeping him with the team, and more importantly-it looks a lot better than seeing him smiling and congratulating teammates on the sideline. His first image should be serious/somber. You know they'd give him more camera time than anybody else if he were on the sideline.
 
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Zurp said:
Based solely on my personal opinion on suspensions, in general, and this case, specifically.
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Thank you. Really though I was asking information had lead you to form that opinion. Even at the HS level I remember kids who were suspended still being at practice (even if they were not allowed to practice) and on the sidelines during games. The only time I remember anything different would involve a suspension from all school activities. In college I don't specifically remember any suspensions from the team.

So my understanding has always been that a player being suspended wasn't banned from all contact with the team unless it involved something very serious.

Popular opinion aside OVI does not fall under that category.

heisman said:
You have to actually suspend the player(s) for this to apply. Doug Worthington and Alex Boone come to mind.
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Steve Bellisari, Redgie Arden, Brandon Joe, Quinn Pitcock, & Pagac Jr. all were suspended for a game for alcohol.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Holy god. The point was that your logic was bad, not that you actually said that. Have you never heard the phrase "using that logic" before? It takes your current logic, and applies it to something else, showing how the logic itself is faulty. It doesn't actually imply you really said something you didn't say.

Jesus.
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Sure you can play that nonsense all day long on a lot of things that are said or done by a lot of people and come up with all sorts of assumptions. Have fun with that...
 
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Muck said:
Thank you. Really though I was asking information had lead you to form that opinion. Even at the HS level I remember kids who were suspended still being at practice (even if they were not allowed to practice) and on the sidelines during games. The only time I remember anything different would involve a suspension from all school activities. In college I don't specifically remember any suspensions from the team.

So my understanding has always been that a player being suspended wasn't banned from all contact with the team unless it involved something very serious.

Popular opinion aside OVI does not fall under that category.
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I didn't play football - high school or college. So, no - my opinion is not based on any information. It just seems "right" to me that a suspended player should be totally suspended. But it seems like there is a precedent set for this, and I'm not afraid to drop to that. And, I have to admit, I don't know the specifics of this case. Maybe JT had to run infinity laps around the world. Maybe he had to take 20 ugly girls out on dates. Maybe he had to take 1 REALLY ugly girl on 20 dates. And if there's a precedent set, I don't see why this case is worse than other cases. I think someone else on this thread stated that he thinks a 1-game suspension was too light, but since that's the "norm" for this offense, why punish JT more than everyone else? I agree - I'd suspend him for at least 2 games. But if it's his first offense, then he shouldn't get twice the penalty anyone else gets. I seem to remember that Steve Bellisari was kept totally away from the stadium when he served his suspension. He wasn't allowed to walk with the rest of the seniors. So I thought that was the norm. If I had my way, that probably would be the norm. But I'm not about to try to start rocking that boat.
 
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buckeyebri said:
Sure you can play that nonsense all day long on a lot of things that are said or done by a lot of people and come up with all sorts of assumptions. Have fun with that...
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You're right, you can. Because people say things that amount to "whatever the coach does is right" all day long. The frequency of such comments doesn't change the fact that it's nonsense.
 
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