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QB Dwayne Haskins Jr. (All B1G, B1G OPOY, Silver Football, Rose Bowl MVP, R.I.P.)

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4 yard TD in the box score, 40 yard throw with touch in real life:

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Sometimes you don't need a cannon, just a nice soft pass to the EZ:

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Kyle Jones breaks down the QBs

I do admit the laser to Saunders was a beauty, for sure, though.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Man, I just don't know. With Barrett it's like the defense knows we aren't even bothering with anything more than 8 yards down field. Stuff the box to eliminate the run (would we be running down 4 scores?) and just wait for the stupid play calls off short field roll outs and bubble screens to covered receivers and all of a sudden it's 3rd and long and we're about to punt again. I'm not saying I'd pick Haskins in that scenario....but I'm not 100% picking JT either.
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No good answer to "down by 4 TD's in the 3rd quarter" on this or any other roster imo.

I still would go back to the 40% thing. If you feel Haskins could give you a better than 40% chance throwing deep against a prevent D then he's your guy because Barrett has clearly demonstrated that he cannot.
 
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Keep getting Haskins time. Hopefully Barrett can crush the next few opponents in the same manner and we'll see it on the field. I did notice there were more post patterns this week and JT is now becoming more comfortable in the middle of the field. The throw Haskins has that Barrett has been awful on is the post-corner where his timing is just not there but Haskins put in there beautifully this past week.

Not enough info to go on at this point.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
4 yard TD in the box score, 40 yard throw with touch in real life:

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Sometimes you don't need a cannon, just a nice soft pass to the EZ:

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Kyle Jones breaks down the QBs

I do admit the laser to Saunders was a beauty, for sure, though.
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Yeah that last one was what I was talking about to Williams just lay it up easy near the goal line and it'd be 6. I think he was going to throw it on a line to him and saw the defender flash late so he just kinda threw it hard away rather then with touch.
 
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Poe McKnoe said:
Your point is noted despite JT being 50% on that throw.
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Well Dwayne was about 5% on utilizing touch.

Watching that game against the JV defense made two things crystal clear:

1) The future is scorchingly bright, and Dwayne looks really good for a redshirt frosh who was splitting limited backup reps until very recently

2) Dwayne has a lot of flaws that keep him as the backup for now.

He is similar to Cardale in a lot of ways, and that includes his lateral foot speed when moving laterally or trying to relocate in the pocket.
 
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jwinslow said:
Well Dwayne was about 5% on utilizing touch.

Watching that game against the JV defense made two things crystal clear:

1) The future is scorchingly bright, and Dwayne looks really good for a redshirt frosh who was splitting limited backup reps until very recently

2) Dwayne has a lot of flaws that keep him as the backup for now.

He is similar to Cardale in a lot of ways, and that includes his lateral foot speed when moving laterally or trying to relocate in the pocket.
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Yeah that one time the pocket broke down and he lowered his eyes it got ugly. Difference from him and Cardale atm appears to be he's more accurate then Cardale was. Cardale was super cool under pressure and we haven't seen Haskins have to deal with that kind of pressure yet.
 
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jwinslow said:
Well Dwayne was about 5% on utilizing touch.

Watching that game against the JV defense made two things crystal clear:

1) The future is scorchingly bright, and Dwayne looks really good for a redshirt frosh who was splitting limited backup reps until very recently

2) Dwayne has a lot of flaws that keep him as the backup for now.

He is similar to Cardale in a lot of ways, and that includes his lateral foot speed when moving laterally or trying to relocate in the pocket.
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Don't know where you're getting a lot of flaws from? His throwing motion is near perfect. He made a bad read for an Int and had bad touch on a couple balls! But his 1st 13 passes were right on money (4 from army game). But look at how quickly he gets catchable balls to receivers so they can turn upfield. Berry's long TD was a ball quickly put on his numbers so that he could turn and make a play with it. If he had no touch he'd throw it through the receivers chest. He needs to do a better job looking off safeties and avoiding the stupid read. But so much arm talent to work with but he needs more game reps. His vertical passing threat will probably be needed in big games when teams aren't afraid of Barrett's downfield passing and are loading the box.
 
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jwinslow said:
Well Dwayne was about 5% on utilizing touch.

Watching that game against the JV defense made two things crystal clear:

1) The future is scorchingly bright, and Dwayne looks really good for a redshirt frosh who was splitting limited backup reps until very recently

2) Dwayne has a lot of flaws that keep him as the backup for now.

He is similar to Cardale in a lot of ways, and that includes his lateral foot speed when moving laterally or trying to relocate in the pocket.
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Yeah that's how I feel too... Im a fan of mobile QBs myself. Haskins has a lot to learn no doubt

JT really put the ball in some tight windows last game too. Other then the throw to Parris on that deep out he really threw well and more importantly confidently while stepping into his throws. I look forward to see what he can build to with Kevin.
 
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buckeye4ever21 said:
Don't know where you're getting a lot of flaws from? His throwing motion is near perfect. He made a bad read for an Int and had bad touch on a couple balls! But his 1st 13 passes were right on money (4 from army game). But look at how quickly he gets catchable balls to receivers so they can turn upfield. Berry's long TD was a ball quickly put on his numbers so that he could turn and make a play with it. If he had no touch he'd throw it through the receivers chest. He needs to do a better job looking off safeties and avoiding the stupid read. But so much arm talent to work with but he needs more game reps. His vertical passing threat will probably be needed in big games when teams aren't afraid of Barrett's downfield passing and are loading the box.
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1) Almost no touch (he has it, he just showed it rarely, opting for the full howitzer on most throws)

2) Weak lateral mobility

3) Weak management of the pocket. The pocket didn't actually collapse on that one play, it just got a little worrisome but held. Meanwhile his eyes dropped, he panicked, and the finish was ugly. He'll stand tall and fire away as he gets more experienced.

4) Staring down reads

5) Understanding of offense


All but #2 are very correctable, and he looks amazing for a redshirt frosh in his first extended PT after getting so few reps before the last few weeks.
 
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Problem is, as excited as we get about Haskins at the moment, he's had PT against Army and UNLV, and most likely he will against Rutgers and Maryland. Still not much that can prove what he can do in crunch time against a decent-good defense. He has flashed against JV teams' JV defenses, so what does that really show us? I agree that I think he has a higher ceiling that JT, but problem is, AT Ann Arbor in November can he be trusted to make the right read on 3rd and 9 with Rashan Gary emerging on him? Can he make the correct read when the defense is disguising their coverage? I love his arm, his touch, but what else does he have thats better than JT? Idk if I'd trust him just get against a team like Ped St, or even a down MSU for that matter
 
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pnuts34 said:
Problem is, as excited as we get about Haskins at the moment, he's had PT against Army and UNLV, and most likely he will against Rutgers and Maryland. Still not much that can prove what he can do in crunch time against a decent-good defense. He has flashed against JV teams' JV defenses, so what does that really show us? I agree that I think he has a higher ceiling that JT, but problem is, AT Ann Arbor in November can he be trusted to make the right read on 3rd and 9 with Rashan Gary emerging on him? Can he make the correct read when the defense is disguising their coverage? I love his arm, his touch, but what else does he have thats better than JT? Idk if I'd trust him just get against a team like Ped St, or even a down MSU for that matter
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Did you really trust JT to take over for Braxton in '14? Be honest.
 
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