QB Cardale '12 Gauge' Jones (B1G Champion, National Champion)

[MaxBuck]

I've long maintained that the NFL should be forced to maintain a D-League for the Cardales of the world. Let them go make 40K a year honing their one skill in Fargo or Fresno and working towards their only goal in life. Do so, and 99% of the [strike]problems[/strike] interest in college football [strike]programs[/strike] would go away.

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[ORD_Buckeye]

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Bullshit. You take a very cynical attitidue, as if every 4 and 5 star athlete is an illiterate. You'd lose a portion of them---the portion that never wanted to (nor should have been allowed to) walk onto a college campus. Good riddance. In return, you'd have better student-athletes, fewer scandals and I'm guessing the thug shit would go down immeasurably.

There would still be plenty of talent that isn't fixated solely on football, and even many (Spielman would be a great example) who though it might be their first priority would have enough common sense to get an education as a backup. You also would have those willing to deal with classes in order to play in front of 100K every Saturday rather than 20K in a d-league.

The average entering SAT for football players vs. regular freshman at Ohio State is almost 300 points lower. That's not a healthy dynamic.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Silver linings, folks. At least he's going to class enough to be tired of it.

 

[MUBuck]

Bull[Mark May]. You take a very cynical attitidue, as if every 4 and 5 star athlete is an illiterate. You'd lose a portion of them---the portion that never wanted to (nor should have been allowed to) walk onto a college campus. Good riddance. In return, you'd have better student-athletes, fewer scandals and I'm guessing the thug [Mark May] would go down immeasurably.

There would still be plenty of talent that isn't fixated solely on football, and even many (Spielman would be a great example) who though it might be their first priority would have enough common sense to get an education as a backup. You also would have those willing to deal with classes in order to play in front of 100K every Saturday rather than 20K in a d-league.

The average entering SAT for football players vs. regular freshman at Ohio State is almost 300 points lower. That's not a healthy dynamic.

At least for football, I'd bet a large number of incoming freshman on scholarship have the NFL as their goal after school. A good number of them realize during college that it won't happen, but I can see the enticement of making money AND doing what you love right out of high school.

 

[Woody1968]

I've long maintained that the NFL should be forced to maintain a D-League for the Cardales of the world. Let them go make 40K a year honing their one skill in Fargo or Fresno and working towards their only goal in life. Do so, and 99% of the problems in college football programs would go away.

I thought you were talking about the SEC, until I saw Fargo and Fresno.

 

[Woody1968]

My opinion has always been that not every kid is cut out for college. Why force an education on someone who doesn't want one? Being able to play football well does not require a college education, so why link them?

Maybe a little less interest in Collge Football would be a good thing for everyone involved, except for ESPIN of course...

 

[Mike80]

My opinion has always been that not every kid is cut out for college. Why force an education on someone who doesn't want one? Being able to play football well does not require a college education, so why link them?

Maybe a little less interest in Collge Football would be a good thing for everyone involved, except for ESPIN of course...

To a point, this is true. But then again, the kid didn't have to sign that offer letter to go to college.

The commitment goes both ways - he's committing to the school as much as the coaches are committing to him. If he didn't want to take school as seriously, I'm sure some community college that acts like 13th grade would have gladly taken him.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I thought you were talking about the SEC, until I saw Fargo and Fresno.

True. Those cities have far better cultural institutions than your average SEC town.

 

[TheStoicPaisano]

I'd be sick of classes too if it took me an extra six months of courses to get into college.

Then again, it took CJ an extra six months to get into college because he was sick of classes at Glenville.

*Head explodes*

Youth is wasted on the young.

 

[osugrad21]

This issue is about to get worse as the NCAA initial eligibility returns to a revised Prop 48 situation in 2016. Don't qualify? No problem. You can still attend the school, but not practice or receive a scholarship. After you accumulate X amount of credit hours, you are eligible.

 

[TheStoicPaisano]

This issue is about to get worse as the NCAA initial eligibility returns to a revised Prop 48 situation in 2016. Don't qualify? No problem. You can still attend the school, but not practice or receive a scholarship. After you accumulate X amount of credit hours, you are eligible.

How does that work with LOIs? If you're eligible by December, you automatically convert to scholarship?

I can see a lot of the marginal guys staying at Milford/FUMA/Hargrave since they can get scholarships there without a ton of problems. Nothing out-of-pocket is important since a lot of the non-qualifiers are from poorer backgrounds. Of course, you run the risk of losing your spot in a recruiting class.

 

[Woody1968]

To a point, this is true. But then again, the kid didn't have to sign that offer letter to go to college.

The commitment goes both ways - he's committing to the school as much as the coaches are committing to him. If he didn't want to take school as seriously, I'm sure some community college that acts like 13th grade would have gladly taken him.

But this is exactly my point. He did have to sign the offer, because he basically has to attend some kind of school to be able to play football. He can't just go to the NFL or a minor league that will prepare him for NFL play. Going to some kind of school is his only option. I don't know how bright this guy is, he could just be bored with his classes, or voicing simple frustrations. But there are some kids out there who are dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to virtually everything except Football. Why take away their ability to hone their one talent?

 

[osugrad21]

How does that work with LOIs? If you're eligible by December, you automatically convert to scholarship?

It is worded as "first year" so I'm assuming the entire freshman year is ineligible...including spring practice.

 

[utgrad73]

Silver linings, folks. At least he's going to class enough to be tired of it.

True, find something that interests you and do your best, Get tutors, find help and pass that class. He's feeling lost and college can be over-whelming if your not geared up for it starting in HS. I'm sure UFM will be having a long talk with him before he throws another ball in parctice.

I'll take the schollie and go back to learn something new. Only problem is my knees and my shoulder wouldn't last 10 minutes on the practice field.

http://www.thelantern.com/opinion/d...-searching-for-a-major-1.2888380#.UD5oPoHAFz1

On another note, don't be afraid to admit if you're feeling a little lost in college. More people than you might think are overwhelmed, stressed and maybe even terrified at the idea of deciding what to do with the rest of their lives. Once you accept that you don't have everything figured out, you open up the opportunity to do something about it.
College is about educating yourself and preparing for the real world, but it's also about finding your passion. So do not settle for mediocrity. Actually, do not settle at all, ever. You might find that being passionate about something makes school and work much easier than you could have ever imagined.

 

[TheStoicPaisano]

It is worded as "first year" so I'm assuming the entire freshman year is ineligible...including spring practice.

Sorry, wasn't clear...is a player guaranteed a slot in the February class (or in June if he has to keep grades up for a year) if he makes grades? That seems like quite a long time to have a scholarship slot up in the air.