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QB Cardale '12 Gauge' Jones (B1G Champion, National Champion)

And they also feel that by returning they could make less money by waiting another year. Anything from a major injury to a decrease in stats can massively decrease a players draft stock. I hope none of these things happen to Cardale, and at the least, Cardale will get a top rate education.
That might be the case for a very small minority. Most leave because the earlier you enter the draft, the earlier you get paid. Why play an extra year for free if somebody is going to pay you to do it?
 
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Senseless arguments are senseless. Debating about what Jones did not choose to do is silly.

He stayed. If he's happy with his decision then so am I.

I'm with you bro, he is loving life right now, this will be the best time of his life. He knows he will have an opportunity to be in the NFL, this time last year he couldn't say the same.
 
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That might be the case for a very small minority. Most leave because the earlier you enter the draft, the earlier you get paid. Why play an extra year for free if somebody is going to pay you to do it?
It depends on how much you can improve your draft position by staying that extra year. Cardale made the smart move by staying because he was likely not going to get drafted in the first round based solely on his unreal post-season performance. If he has a great season this year he'll likely be one of the top 2-3 QBs picked, and even if he's not the starter or has just a pretty decent season he'll still be drafted higher than had he left early, just based on his potential. He can also get one of those insurance policies like Ifo Ekpre-Olomu had which covers drop in draft status and/or injury.
 
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It depends on how much you can improve your draft position by staying that extra year. Cardale made the smart move by staying because he was likely not going to get drafted in the first round based solely on his unreal post-season performance. If he has a great season this year he'll likely be one of the top 2-3 QBs picked, and even if he's not the starter or has just a pretty decent season he'll still be drafted higher than had he left early, just based on his potential. He can also get one of those insurance policies like Ifo Ekpre-Olomu had which covers drop in draft status and/or injury.
No crap! He ended up making more money than he would have gotten guaranteed short of being drafted in the first round. Worked beautifully for him
 
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He can also get one of those insurance policies like Ifo Ekpre-Olomu had which covers drop in draft status and/or injury.
I'm glad to hear Ifo's policy came through. There were a number of other policies that did not cover prospects when they slid in the polls, not unlike many real world insurance providers (especially in a field where the provider holds all of the power).
 
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I'm with you bro, he is loving life right now, this will be the best time of his life. He knows he will have an opportunity to be in the NFL, this time last year he couldn't say the same.
I think there's a solid chance that he goes in round 2 this year with the severe lack of QB talent. He might have also washed out quickly with so little experience and development.

I don't know if staying will prove to be the wise decision but it would seem to give him a better shot at a career in the NFL.
 
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I'm glad to hear Ifo's policy came through. There were a number of other policies that did not cover prospects when they slid in the polls, not unlike many real world insurance providers (especially in a field where the provider holds all of the power).
I think the policy was designed for exactly that, a decline in draft position...
 
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I think the policy was designed for exactly that, a decline in draft position...
Which requires:

- That an injury or illness caused the slide. You won't get a dime for sliding because your stock slipped, like Leinart or Bridgewater.

- That the insurance company honors your claim. They refused Marquise Lee's pretty obvious injury and subsequent slide in the draft, which led to this (Former USC receiver Marqise Lee suing over insurance policy)
 
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Which requires:

- That an injury or illness caused the slide. You won't get a dime for sliding because your stock slipped, like Leinart or Bridgewater.

- That the insurance company honors your claim. They refused Marquise Lee's pretty obvious injury and subsequent slide in the draft, which led to this (Former USC receiver Marqise Lee suing over insurance policy)
I would imagine they're two different companies...haven't checked.
 
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We will possibly never know the ramifications of him staying. It's entirely possible that he doesn't start again. I don't know what that would mean for draft position. But if he gets a degree, well that's awesome.

Even if he doesn't start, I'll be surprised if all 3 don't have significant minutes in some role.
Let's say JT wins the job just to outline "worst case" scenario... in another situation similar to @PSU when he tweaked his knee a bit. There should be no issue putting Cardale straight in, and possibly starting against UI.
Every year under Urban the read option has taken its toll on the starter... so even if JT was declared the straight up starter for the entire season, Cardale is still likely to get significant minutes and allowed to sling it (as contrasted to last year when most of his minutes prior to Wiscy were freight train clock killing mode). Even moreso after his postseason run.
I'd say the same in reverse too -- if Cardale is declared outright starter, I still expect JT will see a lot of time.
 
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Even if he doesn't start, I'll be surprised if all 3 don't have significant minutes in some role.
Let's say JT wins the job just to outline "worst case" scenario... in another situation similar to @PSU when he tweaked his knee a bit. There should be no issue putting Cardale straight in, and possibly starting against UI.
Every year under Urban the read option has taken its toll on the starter... so even if JT was declared the straight up starter for the entire season, Cardale is still likely to get significant minutes and allowed to sling it (as contrasted to last year when most of his minutes prior to Wiscy were freight train clock killing mode). Even moreso after his postseason run.
I'd say the same in reverse too -- if Cardale is declared outright starter, I still expect JT will see a lot of time.
I don't pretend to know what could happen. But it is certainly a possibility that Jones will never start again and only get limited snaps. If that is the case, he could still get drafted or be picked as undrafted free agent and find his way through the NFL. It's also possible that he never really catches on. On the other hand, he could've declared now but we don't know if he'd have fared any better.

I'm glad he stuck with us and I hope he gets a degree, but I don't really see how it's possible to gauge whether this is beneficial to him or not. Seems like the only way we'd KNOW is if he somehow becomes a first round draft pick. If that's the case, then staying would seem to be the obvious winner.
 
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I'm glad he stuck with us and I hope he gets a degree, but I don't really see how it's possible to gauge whether this is beneficial to him or not

Agreed there. I think there's very few cases where that can even be analyzed... it presupposes knowing with certainty that there's an alternate future.
I just felt compelled to point out that whoever isn't starting, I think it's reasonable to assume they'll still get significant play time and that the coaches will let them throw it in that time.
 
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