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Proof of the Existence of God

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jwinslow;2279082; said:
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No. I am sure there are plenty of situations where I might think about it though, and without being in them it is impossible to judge fairly how I would act.
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Aren't the 10 Commandments pretty straight-forward?

It's either a sin or it is not.

No re-wording of it to fit any scenario as you see fit.

I am interested in Mac's view as my guess is that his lack of input the past few hours may be due to him knowing he is in a conundrum with his question.

It is either a sin or it is not.
 
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JBaney45;2278472; said:
Children die every day, many in more gruesome ways then these kids did.
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Out of the several billion humans under the age of 16 on this planet, I seriously any of them died recently in a more gruesome way than did those 20 kids...

Mac;2278779; said:
I think that God punishes those who are obviously disregarding/disobeying him and his word. For example, the fact that as a country we are starting to allow gay marriage, he will punish our country for that, as it is clearly written that homosexuality is a sin. We as a nation continue to make decisions that are against Gods word, and until we learn to not go against him unfortunately, disasters, natural disasters, etc will continue to happen. Our culture here in the US is horrible. it is greedy, money driven, materialistic people, im surprised worse things havent happened here. Look at the book of Judges in the bible. Israel followed God, then strayed away from him. When that happened, he punished Israel until they relalized what they were doing. Then when they followed God again, he did not allow bad things to happen to Israel.

But for something like what happened in CT, he has a plan for all of us. Put your trust and your life in him, and you will live like kings and have eternal life. Life on this earth is only temporary. And unfortunately evil is also here on this earth which causes pain and suffering. Hebrews 12:5-14 tells us that God sometimes allows hard times to happen to His children as opportunities to grow by overcoming challenges.
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It's mind-boggling to me that in the second decade of the 21st century that grown, educated human beings still believe in some magical, omnipresent, master diety.
 
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Mac;2279059; said:
That's not for me to decide. I'm not the one who ultimately says hell or heaven. I think suicide is wrong. It's breaking the 6th commandment "thou shall not murder". And you're breaking one of the most precious things God gave us to begin with, life. The only unforgiving sin in the bible is rejecting Christ and insulting the Holy Spirit.
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Thump;2279139; said:
Aren't the 10 Commandments pretty straight-forward?

It's either a sin or it is not.

No re-wording of it to fit any scenario as you see fit.

I am interested in Mac's view as my guess is that his lack of input the past few hours may be due to him knowing he is in a conundrum with his question.

It is either a sin or it is not.
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I already answered you. And sorry for not being on BP 24/7. I've got other things to do

Like Jwins said, it does not specifically state you automatically go to hell if you commit suicide in the bible.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2279163; said:
Out of the several billion humans under the age of 16 on this planet, I seriously any of them died recently in a more gruesome way than did those 20 kids...
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19,000 children die EVERY DAY just from preventable causes. Imagine the pain of starving to death or succombing to dehydration? I'm sure a lot of the diseases that kill aren't pleasent to go through either. What about the kids who die in various bombings throughout the world? We tend to block out just how dark the world can be.

What happened in Conn. was horrifying, the hope would be that it was..over quickly for the ones that passed.

MililaniBuckeye;2279163; said:
It's mind-boggling to me that in the second decade of the 21st century that grown, educated human beings still believe in some magical, omnipresent, master diety.
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No it isn't, because there is no clear explanation of the creation of the universe that disproves the existence of God, point blank period.
 
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JBaney45;2279233; said:
No it isn't, because there is no clear explanation of the creation of the universe that disproves the existence of God, point blank period.
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Your Argument from Ignorance is a logical fallacy (see Bertrand Russell's Teapot Analogy). The burden of proof lies on you to substantiate the existence of God, not for others to disprove God's existence.
 
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Brewtus;2279252; said:
Your Argument from Ignorance is a logical fallacy (see Bertrand Russell's Teapot Analogy). The burden of proof lies on you to substantiate the existence of God, not for others to disprove God's existence.
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No, not really. The burden of proof does not fall on him to substantiate his own beliefs, any more than it falls on you to prove them false. The problem with Russell's analogy is that while to you God may be a thing, like a teapot. Belief is not.
 
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Thump;2279065; said:
Do you believe there is ever an instance where suicide in justified?
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Yes, reading every post in this horrible, horrible thread.

There is no discussion here--only derision and mockery. As a moderator, it is very tempting to close this entire thread and send it to the ninth level of hell, where it will be devoured endlessly by the Adversary until the end of time.
 
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