Prioritize Your Hate List

[BB73]

What glory is there in beating your sworn rival when that rival is not just bad, but terrible?

Wiping out every bit of accomplishment that their fans are able to hang their hats on is a worthwhile, even a venerable goal.

Thankfully the RichRod era prevented them from matching Nebraska's bowl streak of 35 straight seasons, or TSUN fans would never stop gloating about such a streak.

tOSU winning 14 or 15 more straight games against TSUN would wipe out the margin they gained in the head-to-head series before World War I. tOSU fans would revel in no longer having to hear about the all-time head-to-head record.

A couple of decades of mediocrity for TSUN would also allow somebody like Texas (or Nebraska ) to overtake them on the all-time wins list. That's their main claim to fame (they've NEVER won a Coaches National Title), and over the last 100 years Ohio State has the best winning percentage of any D-I team, and Texas and Oklahoma each have 40 more wins than TSUN.

Wiping out the advantage TSUN racked up in the days before touchdowns counted as 6 points (TSUN had 186 wins before 1912, while tOSU had 126 and Nebraska 130), is something I hope to live to see. The fact that it would take an extended period of time with TSUN as a mediocre football team for that to happen is fine by me.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Seems as good a thread as any to say fuck Sammy Fuckin Sosa. I'd rather join a crime fighting all girl rock band than have to lay eyes on that roided out corked batted motherfucker ever again.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Seems as good a thread as any to say fuck Sammy Fuckin Sosa. I'd rather join a crime fighting all girl rock band than have to lay eyes on that roided out corked batted motherfucker ever again.

I'm ordering back copies, how many should I put you down for?

 

[cincibuck]

‪Michigan Sucks‬‏ - YouTube

Fuck Michigan. My life would be infinitely better if they never won another game.

"Hope they are good again?"

What the fuck is that? Do people not remember the Coop years? Do people not remember Griese, Brady, Thomas?

The rivalry is born out of a deep, deep dislike/hatred of one another, not because the teams are "evenly matched." That criteria is for lesser rivals, such as Wussconsin. In 2 years, when Wisky is shit again, no one will give a fuck. But, the hatred of tsun will go on forever.

Maybe some people need to sit down, watch "The Rivalry" by HBO, and reevaluate.

I for one, will never never feel the slightest bit of compassion or indifference for that asshole of a program.

The rivalry is only The Rivalry because both are excellent. I don't love Michigan. I don't hate them either. I respect them and to me that's what makes it a Great Rivalry. Great fight songs, great bands, great traditions, great lists of "All Time" athletes, great schools, great libraries and research facilities and fans who stick with "their" team through Cooper years and Rich Rod fiascos. Senior Rob Carpenter, tears in his eyes as he leans on his crutches and tells his freshman replacement, James Laurenitis, "Get ready 'cause both sides are going to be hitting out there harder than you've ever hit anyone before." Bo setting a trap for Woody, Woody setting a trap for Bo. Respect for the long list of epic struggles, many running right down to the final seconds, respect for the many championships between them.

Still not satisfied? Then ask yourself this: When was the last time you had to pay more than $5 over the listed price for an OSU - Indiana ticket? When was the last time you counted the days until the Bucks met up with the Wildcats? The reason? Lack of earned respect. "I O"

 

[BlufftonBuckeye]

To draw an analogy to war;

You are talking about defeating your enemies strategy, winning with the least loss of life and most infrastructure intact as possible. Noble goals for almost every situation to be sure.

I'm talking about genocide. I want to cleanse the earth of the motherfuckers, end bloodlines, sew salt in the fields, poison wells, the whole 9 yards. I don't want my enemy to exist.

Indeed.

Look, to the people writing about the "satisfaction" of a win against a quality team:

I'll give you that beating a quality team is enjoyable. However, this rivalry is not about beating a team because they offered a good challenge. Its about destroying your sworn enemy, because they are your enemy. Not because you withstood a challenge, but because that team from the north needs devastated.

I honestly enjoy every victory as much as the last. 42-39 in '06? Loved it. 42-7? Loved it.

When it comes to "The Game," it's about those two teams on the field, nothing more nothing less. if both teams were 0-12? Still an intense, meaningful game to the fans. If both teams are 12-0? Again, intense and meaningful. If one team is a NC contender, and the other a celler dweller? Still, INTENSE and meaningful!

I grew up circling the 3rd Saturday in November, for that was the day that justice would be served. After I loss, I was inconsolable. After a win, I was undeterred in my jubilation. Then I turned 10.

I'm happy to say nothing has changed for me. The rivalry will always mean something, at least to me.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Seems as good a thread as any to say fuck Sammy Fuckin Sosa. I'd rather join a crime fighting all girl rock band than have to lay eyes on that roided out corked batted motherfucker ever again.

Still not as bad as JCOSU

 

[Jaxbuck]

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Still not satisfied? Then ask yourself this: When was the last time you had to pay more than $5 over the listed price for an OSU - Indiana ticket? When was the last time you counted the days until the Bucks met up with the Wildcats? The reason? Lack of earned respect. "I O"

If you think OSU fans really want to see M*ch*gan be successful explain these to me.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfvJPDD8j8&feature=related"]‪Response to Michigan Losing, from Ohio Stadium‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZlDKs7dKaU&feature=related"]‪michigan loses to App. St.‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1giAD9ys8Y&feature=related"]‪Michigan loses to Appalachian State. Ohio State fans love it‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

All those people were too dumb to realize scUM losing to Appy State was a bad thing for the B10 and, indirectly, OSU? I think not.

OSU's national reputation is not tied to the success of scUM. OSU fans excitement for Buckeye football isn't diminished when scUM is terrible. Therefore why would anyone want scUM to have any measure of success whatsoever?

 

[SmoovP]

Arkansas Hates:

1. Texas. Because, fuck Texas.

2. Mississippi. Because, fuck Houston Dale Nutt in his stupid face three times. Also, racism disguised as pride.

3. Oklahoma. The whole state, every team in it, everyone what lives in the state, and everyone from the state.

4. Tennessee. Stupid state, stupid team, stupid color and most of all stupid Rocky Top.

5. Notre Dame. Complete irrelevance, yet they get treated like they matter.

6. Everyone else.

 

[BlufftonBuckeye]

The rivalry is only The Rivalry because both are excellent. I don't love Michigan. I don't hate them either. I respect them and to me that's what makes it a Great Rivalry. Great fight songs, great bands, great traditions, great lists of "All Time" athletes, great schools, great libraries and research facilities and fans who stick with "their" team through Cooper years and Rich Rod fiascos. Senior Rob Carpenter, tears in his eyes as he leans on his crutches and tells his freshman replacement, James Laurenitis, "Get ready 'cause both sides are going to be hitting out there harder than you've ever hit anyone before." Bo setting a trap for Woody, Woody setting a trap for Bo. Respect for the long list of epic struggles, many running right down to the final seconds, respect for the many championships between them.

Still not satisfied? Then ask yourself this: When was the last time you had to pay more than $5 over the listed price for an OSU - Indiana ticket? When was the last time you counted the days until the Bucks met up with the Wildcats? The reason? Lack of earned respect. "I O"

You make some fair points.

My response:

The "base" of The Rivalry is strong enough to withstand one of the teams being terrible. The reasons above are why there is a rivalry, not why the rivalry is still relevant.

Look, the scUM game is still the most difficult ticket to get on the schedule, and for good reason. The OSU/Indiana/Mildcats games were NEVER a draw, and most likely NEVER will be, for the same reasons The Rivalry is a big deal.

I want to puke every time I turn on the tv and see those ugly ass winged helmets, the shit-yellow uniforms, and the value city blue. I've never rooted for tsun, and I never will.


This seems appropriate, although it isn't anti tsun as much as anti Ntre Ame:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Y7yjxJVlc&feature=player_embedded"]‪Bud Light: Real Men of Genius - Hopeless Notre Dame Fan‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[knapplc]

Cincibuck has the definitive post in this thread. There is a reason Indiana is not your rival. Give Michigan another ten years of Indiana-like output and see what luster there is in demolishing them. It just is not the same.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Cincibuck has the definitive post in this thread. There is a reason Indiana is not your rival. Give Michigan another ten years of Indiana-like output and see what luster there is in demolishing them. It just is not the same.

Nonsense.

I suppose now you are going to tell us those NC's in the mid 90's were nice but the success wasn't the same because Oklahoma sucked at that time?

As Nebraska and OSU have both proven, if your school is legitimately big time you don't need your chief rival to be good to have great national success. If you don't need them to be good, why wish them to be good? Other "big game" opponents will arise, the hated rivals fans will find new levels of suffering and your team gets to add to it every year. That is just pure win to me.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Beating a weak Michigan team the next 20 years in a row loses meaning, doesn't it?

Uh, no...it never does.

 

[jlb1705]

I get what you're saying, and I'm not trying to tell you that you're wrong. But isn't it better for Michigan to be ranked highly when you beat them? Doesn't that necessarily mean that you want them back as a power? Beating a weak Michigan team the next 20 years in a row loses meaning, doesn't it?

Nature has created a balance.

My job as an Ohio State fan is not to wish them well or hope they win all of their games so that when the Buckeyes beat them it will somehow be worth more. My job is to wish that they find nothing but failure and disappointment not just on that one Saturday in November, but at every other possible opportunity along the way.

M*ch*g*n's job as the arch nemesis is to somehow manage to be at least halfway decent and succeed in spite of my wishes.

Did Superman ever think to himself, "I hope Lex Luthor is at least marginally competent so people will still think I'm awesome when I stop him?" NO.

If M*ch*g*n fails to maintain the balance by not holding up their end of the deal, it's not my problem.

 

[jlb1705]

Cincibuck has the definitive post in this thread. There is a reason Indiana is not your rival. Give Michigan another ten years of Indiana-like output and see what luster there is in demolishing them. It just is not the same.

Indiana doesn't suck because generations of Buckeyes wished for it. They suck because they're Indiana.

 

[Bleed S & G]

at TBDBITL breaking out in M*ch*g*n's fight song after the App State game.