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I know it is early for this, but here goes. If 247's crystal ball predictions are to be believed, the 2014 class should look something like the list below. There are obviously gray areas re: positions, which is why I have four listed under ATH. Additional names will undoubtedly pop up as they always do, but as of this moment, what do you think? Will we be able to sign 20+? Do you think this is generally how the class will end up? If so, will you be satisfied? I certainly would be. Would love to get a talented QB (Harris) or a tall WR (Blacknall), but this would be a great class in my opinion in terms of filling needs, especially OL. Not sure that we'll actually sign six OL, but it would be great to get at least 4-5...

QB - None.

RB - Jonathan Hilliman

WR - Lonnie Johnson

ATH - Parris Campbell, Marshon Lattimore, Curtis Samuel, Austin Roberts

TE - None.

OL - Marcelys Jones, Kyle Trout, Jamarco Jones, Chad Mavety, Demetrius Knox, Alex Bookser

DL - Dylan Thompson, Derek Barnett

LB - Sam Hubbard, Kyle Berger, Dante Booker, Raekwon McMillan

DB - Damon Webb, Erick Smith, Quincy Wilson

Specialist - Sean Nuernberger

Would love to see your updated predictions for the class posted here as the recruiting season progresses...
 
I know that I do not follow recruiting as much as some of the other guys on this site but I find it extremely difficult to believe that Meyer will not take a QB in this class. I say that simply because after Miller's last year you are left with Barrett, Jones, and a unknown freshman. I do not see Barrett getting any playing time this season unless I am completely wrong about his injury. I do not know enough about how Jones has improved or will improve this year to say that he could be a starter after Miller leaves and I highly doubt that an incoming freshman is going to be a starting QB. I just think that we take a QB. Have no idea who it might be but I am sure that the coaches are looking at more than a few.
 
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starBUCKS;2346579; said:
I think as Meyer history shows, there will be a few names on that list that we don't even have on our radars yet. I also agree with Litl, there will be a QB in this class.

It was just about a year ago exactly that Alex Anzalone and Lewis Neal decommitted.

Mike Mitchell's thread was barely on its second page and Trey Johnson's thread had 4 posts at that time.
 
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Buckeye86;2346600; said:
It was just about a year ago exactly that Alex Anzalone and Lewis Neal decommitted.

Mike Mitchell's thread was barely on its second page and Trey Johnson's thread had 4 posts at that time.

All points well taken. As I said, this thread is premature. It will be interesting (to me, at least) to look back and see how inaccurate it is at the end of this cycle. And yes, I suppose we would find ourselves in an uncomfortable position if we don't take a QB this year.
 
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Krenzelicious;2346619; said:
All points well taken. As I said, this thread is premature. It will be interesting (to me, at least) to look back and see how inaccurate it is at the end of this cycle. And yes, I suppose we would find ourselves in an uncomfortable position if we don't take a QB this year.

Well, I posted this

Buckeye86;2340200; said:
It's next to impossible to predict what this class is going to look like right now, but I think it makes it easier when you look at who are the most likely players who will be in the class, so here goes.

QB
1. Allen/Harris/Watson/Darlington

We're definitely going to land a QB. Who exactly that is will be the question. Kyle Allen is the best passer, Brandon Harris probably has the most upside running the ball, DeShaun Watson is a perfect mix between the two and Zack Darlington fits in somewhere as well.

RB

I don't see the need for another RB in this class and don't think the coaches will push hard for one until December or so (if they do at all) when they have a better idea if there will be a spot for one or not. Some people consider Parris Campbell a back and I like what I am hearing early from the '15 class so I'm not worried at all.

WR
2. Lonnie Johnson
3. Derek Kief

At 6'3" I view Johnson as a perimeter WR and I think adding Kief would just about finish up the search for perimeter WRs in the class.

Pivot/Slot
4. Parris Campbell

This is an area where one or two more additions will be made. It's too early to even speculate about who those might be at this time but it's a pretty safe bet that they are going to be an explosive weapon on offense.

TE/H-Back

5. Austin Roberts

I think we will end up with Roberts or a major surprise like Tyler Luatua. The depth here is pretty thin so they may be targeting more than one player but the staff definitely isn't going to reach on anyone.

Sam Hubbard might factor in here as well.

OL
6. Marcelys Jones
7. Kyle Trout
8. Jamarco Jones
9. Demetrious Knox
10. Chad Mavety

Ohio State has a great shot at Jones, Knox and Mavety and it would be hard to say no to someone like Damian Prince or Alex Bookser if they wanted to join as well. Between those five I wouldn't mind adding four additional players to the OL but that might be getting a little greedy. This is the biggest area of need in the class (along with LB) and the only area of lingering doubt regarding recruiting.

Jones wants to decide at the end of June, it would be nice if Mavety committed on his visit which is currently scheduled for the middle of June, I'm not sure what the situation is with Bookser, while Knox and Prince are almost certainly going to be all-star or signing day decisions.

Getting a strong OL class is extremely important and the only thing I am somewhat concerned about right now. Getting Jones and Mavety on board in June would be absolutely huge and would make the wait for guys like Prince or Knox much easier.

DL
11. Dylan Thompson
12. Poona Ford

Thompson is a SSDE type who could slide down to 3-technique DT, Ford is a NT who could slide to 3-technique DT as well- I think he is highly likely to commit during or shortly after camps this summer.

That leaves a Viper/LEO for the staff to target. There is a lot of speculation that Dante Booker is a candidate here and I think there will be a major push for an elite defensive lineman or two, Viper or otherwise, in the final months.

LB

13. Kyle Berger
14. Raekwon McMillan
15. Chase Winovich
16. Sam Hubbard
17. Dante Booker

The other major position of need that the staff is well on its way to filling with flying colors. Berger, Hubbard and Booker are on board but as previously mentioned, only Berger seems like a lock to end up at LB in college.

Almost everyone has McMillan as a strong lean to Ohio State and the staff is visiting with Winovich today so we might find out where he is going very soon. People are speculating that the depth chart might scare Winovich into the arms of Michigan but it is almost certain that either Hubbard or Booker don't end up at LB. The depth chart can easily accommodate three to four additions at LB in this class. I'm sure that will be a topic of conversation today.

I think the staff would like to add Winovich while continuing to close the deal on McMillan and call it a day. If either goes elsewhere there will be a push in the final months for some of the other players on the board. This staff has proven they can do that if needed but it would be nice to wrap things up at LB before then.

DB
18. Damon Webb
19. Marshon Lattimore
20. Erick Smith

Like the pivot/slot, the staff is going to be pushing hard for some elite DBs down the homestretch (Quincy Wilson, Tony Brown etc.) and I think they will add at least one more.

That said, the numbers are already at the limit just from the players that seem highly likely to be in the class right now. If you assume the staff is targeting at least one more elite player at the Pivot/Slot, DL and DB (which they are) that takes the number up to 23 which will probably require additional attrition from the current roster to reach as it is.

Either way, the class is shaping up extremely nicely. If we can lock up most of the heavy leans in the next month or two and maybe just maybe a QB (while assuming that Lattimore, Smith and McMillan are locks) we will be sitting pretty for the final push to finish out the class.

on June 24th.

All four QBs I listed are out unless we manage a late flip which is entirely possible (assuming Harris is a strong lean to LSU at this point).

Hilliman looks like a possibility at RB although given his rave reviews of the visit combined with the lack of a commitment, I still think the staff is slow playing there.

Kief is out at WR and that is currently wide open.

OL still looks pretty solid but we'll see what Jones does in a few days. Prince and Bookser are still in the picture as well.

Ford is probably out at DT given the lack of buzz following camp. It looks like Derek Barnett may have taken that spot or it could be wide open.

Winovich is out at LB and I'm not sure if they are looking to land anyone else beyond McMillan.

Still solid on the DBs.

So it took less than a month to completely blow up my last "best guess".
 
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I'll bite brother man, never too early to be premature :biggrin: I actually agree with you on QB...as much as we want one, I don't see a single OSU caliber QB available if/when Harris stays south. No need to reach and might as well just try to flip Watson or Allen all year, or call it a day. Still wish we would've pursued Barker. Anyways:

RB: Joe Mixon (huge wildcard but with UFM I have to try)
WR: Lonnie Johnson
WR: Marshon Lattimore
WR: Curtis Samuel
WR/RB: Parris Campbell
TE: Austin Roberts
OL: Marcelys Jones
OL: Kyle Trout
OL: Jamarco Jones
OL: Demtrius Knox
OL: Chad Mavety
OL: Damian Prince
DE: Dylan Thompson
DE: Jalyn Holmes (another wildcard but I think he buys in)
DE/DT: Solomon Thomas (another steal/wild guess, also could insert Poona Ford)
LB: Kyle Berger
LB: Dante Booker
LB: Raekwon McMillan
LB/S: Sam Hubbard
DB: Damon Webb
DB: Erick Smith
K: Sam Nuerenberger

- Overall, I think this class will be good but not fantastic (strictly speaking in terms of pure site star ratings fwiw). To be completely objective, we have already missed on a ton of guys we really wanted, particularly at QB. However, I refuse to believe UFM is not going to finish strong. It is for that reason I threw out some of those names...it may not be those specific players but we will get some big name surprises late in the game imo.
 
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RB07OSU;2346745; said:
- Overall, I think this class will be good but not fantastic (strictly speaking in terms of pure site star ratings fwiw). To be completely objective, we have already missed on a ton of guys we really wanted, particularly at QB. However, I refuse to believe UFM is not going to finish strong. It is for that reason I threw out some of those names...it may not be those specific players but we will get some big name surprises late in the game imo.

If we land everyone you list above, I would have a hard time not calling it a great class, especially in light of our OL needs. Add Harris (or Watson) and I'd call it fantastic.

My only criticism of your list: as of this moment, it seems hard to imagine that Barnett won't be a part of this class if his offer is, in fact, commitable.
 
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Krenzelicious;2346766; said:
If we land everyone you list above, I would have a hard time not calling it a great class, especially in light of our OL needs. Add Harris (or Watson) and I'd call it fantastic.

My only criticism of your list: as of this moment, it seems hard to imagine that Barnett won't be a part of this class if his offer is, in fact, commitable.

I phrased that poorly...it will be a great class if it is anything like that but just perhaps not a top 5 class nationally like we have become accustomed to. And I would like to see Barnett in this class but I just wanted to see if the offer is legit. I like his potential as a DT for sure but I am also holding out hope for a late surprise like Chris Williams or Andrew Brown.

But moreover, I think the staff is taking some high ceiling developmental guys from in-state (Campbell, Hubbard, Berger, Lonnie Johnson, etc.) now that they have brought in some top classes and stability. So the star rating may be down on those guys (I know, who cares) but we are getting players that could be stars with some Mick time and development.
 
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RB07OSU;2346820; said:
but I am also holding out hope for a late surprise

Isn't that the standard UFM close?


But moreover, I think the staff is taking some high ceiling developmental guys from in-state (Campbell, Hubbard, Berger, Lonnie Johnson, etc.) now that they have brought in some top classes and stability. So the star rating may be down on those guys (I know, who cares) but we are getting players that could be stars with some Mick time and development.

And how many of these guys are out there that just need to show some more of what they can do before they get an offer? UFM seems to make it quite clear that it takes more than just a highlight reel to get an offer, it's all the plays in between that seem to matter as well.
 
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OL: Marcelys Jones
OL: Kyle Trout
OL: Jamarco Jones
OL: Chad Mavety
OL: OTHER*

TE: Sam Hubbard

WR: Lonnie Johnson
WR: Austin Roberts

ATH: Parris Campbell
ATH: Curtis Samuel


RB: Jonathan Hilliman

DE: Dylan Thompson
DE: Derek Barnett

LB: Kyle Berger
LB: Raekwon McMillan
LB: Dante Booker

DB: Damon Webb
DB: Marshon Lattimore

S: Erick Smith

K: Sam Nuerenberger

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QB: OTHER*


* Player not currently offered a scholarship.

Solid class of 20 with possibly 21 from a late QB commitment a la Kenny Guiton (if room permits)! Defense > Offense

I'll also guess Scout.com rates this class at ~3.85 average stars (because Scout doesn't value kickers for some reason).

:osu:
 
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I'm not convinced we will see a true RB in this class. It's certainly not a position of need. Also consider the ATH offers out there and the type of bodies needed to run diamond formations, etc. Personally I would rather see a 6th O Lineman or take a QB like Collier who was farther down our wish list. You don't turn down guys like Mixon but beyond a select few like him I don't see a traditional RB being a major focus area given class size and other positions of need and the evolution of our offense.
 
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This is going to look a lot like other lists but I think that is because this staff is really starting to zero in on certain guys.

Guys I see as in as of today:

Jamarco Jones
Marshon Lattimore
Erick Smith

Guys I want to put as in but can't do it just yet:

Chad Mavety
Curtis Samuel
Austin Roberts
Damian Prince
Quincy Wilson

If they land everyone on that list to go along with the 10 current verbals they are at 18. I'm using 22 as my target. Need another end and another tackle along the defensive line. Also need another WR and Kwon. That gets them to 22. Here is my current thinking, which is subject to change the second I hit "Submit Reply"...breaking things down by position:

QB: Harris or nothing for me, although I could see the staff offering Collier or Dawkins. Also interested in seeing some of the Ohio kids like Bertke get evaluated. In the end I think they pass and move on to 2015.

RB: No real need and Campbell probably fills the the spot although I think they pursue Mixon and Scott to the end. Not real sure if they'd take Hilliman so I could be wrong.

WR: I think/hope Samuel ends up a Buckeye. I think they have a real shot at Trevion Thompson. I think they will continue to pursue Mark Andrews, Jalen Brown and Noah Brown and to a lesser extent Artavis Scott and Johnnie Dixon. Love Johnson's upside. Give me Samuel and Thompson and I forget all about Kief.

TE: I like where they are with Roberts and they also have offers out to several solid candidates in Luatua, Dixon and Goolsby.

OL: I want Jones, Mavety and Prince to go with Trout and Jones. No need for Knox, IMO.

DT: Holley, Brown, Nnadi and Shaw seem to be the top targets. Would love to land Brown but would gladly take Holley to go along with Thompson who could end up a combo DE/DT ala Heyward or Simon. Barnett could factor here as well but not sure his offer is committable.

DE: Options abound. I have Booker as a future end. Hubbard could end up here or he could end up at TE. Carter is beyond a longshot. Thomas and Holmes are two guys I pursue until the bitter end. Plenty of other top offers out to guys like Street, Garrett, Hendrix, Harris, Williams, Reed, etc. This list could look completely different in six months. My gut says they land somebody big here...someone we're not currently counting on.

LB: Give me Kwon.

CB: I have Lattimore here with Webb. They pursue Tony Brown around the world if they have to. Lot of other corners reporting OFFERS but they seem more like offers. My guess is they end up with just the two.

S: Erick Smith and Quincy Wilson and call it a day. Anything beyond that, such as Smith, Adams, McDowell or McGraw is just gravy.

K/P: Done here with Nuernberger.

QB: None
RB: Campbell
WR: Johnson
WR: Thompson
WR: Samuel
TE: Roberts
OL: Trout
OL: Jones
OL: Jones
OL: Prince
OL: Mavety
DT: Holley
DT: Thompson
DE: Booker
DE: Thomas or Holmes (just have a suspicion they get at least one elite end)
LB: Berger
LB: Hubbard
LB: McMillian
CB: Webb
CB: Lattimore
S: Smith
S: Wilson
K: Nuernberg

That's 22. Can't see them going much above that at this point, although we all know it's possible. Anything they get beyond that (possibly a true RB, another WR, another DB, etc.) is because there will be attrition. Just don't see it at this point.

I would take the above class right now...in a heartbeat...and be ecstatic. I'm sure I'm forgetting something or someone but that is my best guess.
 
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