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This win doesn't have much affect on recruiting because most of the kids have in their minds who they want to go to before this game is played. 1 game during the season isn't going to change a recruits mind about a college's campus, facilities, social life, majors for him or how they're system is setup. If bowl wins meant so much then why do kids still commit to scUM? And/or teams like Texas A&M Oregon St, Cal and Baylor? A lot more factors go into where a kid commits than 1 bowl game. It means more to the fans than it does the recruits, the recruits only care about how the team progresses once they get there. I'm VERY glad we won, but if we lost I didn't see any of our commits leaving
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WaitingforKickoff
Legend
Troy Smith was a big reason why Pryor was high on tOSU in the first place. And we are still reeling in kids who want to be the next Ted Ginn jr or James Laurinatis. Duane Long is absolutely right that recruiting is local, but having a high profile PA kid on the roster enjoying so much success is going to help open up recruiting in PA.
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calibuck
Too soon old, too late smart
Just a couple of thoughts relative to the win in the Rose....recruits see it, and see how their position is used, how many freshmen get in, etc. Mostly how they would be affected. They'll then take their stat sheet and see what the depth chart looks like.
The fact that Tress & Co 'adapted' to a 'new' offense (noted by Mushmouth and Herbie), is a positive. Any defensive person noted how the(ir) position was utilized, and the comments on what a great game Heacock called....it all adds up. Ballard catching that pass was crucial, (Hey look, they actually throw to their TE's!), to getting a great TE to come to OSU. Didn't see many freshmen (Hall, Jordan, ?) in there, but...
The fact that OSU GETS there (NC - twice, BCS 8 times, Rose) means a lot (Hey, you'll see Disneyland on our trip). Why do you think Wisconsin plays Hawaii? (Hey, we take an annual game to Honolulu)....it all adds up.
Exposure to the "League", as most ballers will watch the games (BCS at least), and the scouts will watch for all the 'nuggets' prior to draft day. Not in, not seen......
Impressive win, against all odds (and prenosticators picks), OSU did it. Plus, there won't be any sort of stupid e-mail traffic calling for Tress's head (for at least six months), if OSU would have lost. It all adds up....
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The fact that Tress & Co 'adapted' to a 'new' offense (noted by Mushmouth and Herbie), is a positive. Any defensive person noted how the(ir) position was utilized, and the comments on what a great game Heacock called....it all adds up. Ballard catching that pass was crucial, (Hey look, they actually throw to their TE's!), to getting a great TE to come to OSU. Didn't see many freshmen (Hall, Jordan, ?) in there, but...
The fact that OSU GETS there (NC - twice, BCS 8 times, Rose) means a lot (Hey, you'll see Disneyland on our trip). Why do you think Wisconsin plays Hawaii? (Hey, we take an annual game to Honolulu)....it all adds up.
Exposure to the "League", as most ballers will watch the games (BCS at least), and the scouts will watch for all the 'nuggets' prior to draft day. Not in, not seen......
Impressive win, against all odds (and prenosticators picks), OSU did it. Plus, there won't be any sort of stupid e-mail traffic calling for Tress's head (for at least six months), if OSU would have lost. It all adds up....
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As a long time Buckeye fan, my perception of the current state of the Ohio State Buckeye football team changed with their latest win. And I'm sure that point is not lost on the recruits.
Not because they won the Rose Bowl, but how they won it.
Our coaching staff did a masterful job preparing these guys for this game and came up with a genius plan to counter Oregon on both sides of the ball. Pryor shocked all who watched that game by showing how live his arm was, a point that I'm most certainly sure was not lost on WR recruit James Louis, who has widely been rumored to still be considering other schools. And that defense, shutting down one of the best offenses in the nation, proved to a national audience that this Silver Bullet D is still elite and had to be impressive for any kid watching them.
Recruiting articles are now claiming that OSU now leads for James & Anderson, both of which are changes from pre-bowl game (ND, WVU). And Hicks has let on that the Bucks are not out of it in his recruitment, as has been widely speculated. The Bucks are still rumored to have Floyd, Hankins, Bryant, & Roby in the bag and their bowl performance certainly couldn't have hurt their chances with aquiring Henderson as well.
We'll just have to see if this ends up convincing some of these undecided recruits in the 2010 class that OSU is the right place for them. If not, it's just another opportunity for the 2011 class. Gonna be an exciting end of the recruiting year, that's for sure!
Not because they won the Rose Bowl, but how they won it.
Our coaching staff did a masterful job preparing these guys for this game and came up with a genius plan to counter Oregon on both sides of the ball. Pryor shocked all who watched that game by showing how live his arm was, a point that I'm most certainly sure was not lost on WR recruit James Louis, who has widely been rumored to still be considering other schools. And that defense, shutting down one of the best offenses in the nation, proved to a national audience that this Silver Bullet D is still elite and had to be impressive for any kid watching them.
Recruiting articles are now claiming that OSU now leads for James & Anderson, both of which are changes from pre-bowl game (ND, WVU). And Hicks has let on that the Bucks are not out of it in his recruitment, as has been widely speculated. The Bucks are still rumored to have Floyd, Hankins, Bryant, & Roby in the bag and their bowl performance certainly couldn't have hurt their chances with aquiring Henderson as well.
We'll just have to see if this ends up convincing some of these undecided recruits in the 2010 class that OSU is the right place for them. If not, it's just another opportunity for the 2011 class. Gonna be an exciting end of the recruiting year, that's for sure!
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MuckFighigan
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Kids wanna go to Ohio State for 2010 National Championship were gonna win for this upcoming season we are going to make another title run and instead of getting disgraced were gonna bring back another Trophy! Go buckeyes!
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Scarlet'n'Gray
Sophmore
A BCS bowl win will definitely attract more kids. Tressel will look more impressive without a four bowl losing streak, and everyone will want to compete for a possible national championship.
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sammyjenkis
Hall of Fame
Six Train;1632912; said:
So in your opinion, averting a disaster is considered minor?
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Works for Florida State!sammyjenkis;1635021; said:
School goes through the biggest case of academic fraud in NCAA sports history, kicks out future HOF head coach Bobby Bowden... lands back-to-back-to-back 5* kids (Luc, Joyner, Elam).
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MONTbigBuck
Heisman
Coqui;1634357; said:
Couldn't disagree more. With another bad loss OSU would have been permanently labeled(in media terms) as a pretender for the national championship, only wins in the Big Ten but can't compete nationally, etc. I do think this negativity effects some recruits. After the Rose Bowl, anyone but an out and out OSU hater will at least have the Bucks in the Hunt for the NC game next year and probably the year after. If a top recruit wants to win a national championship, the strong finish in the second half of this year can only be a positive in forming a view as to the Bucks prospects. Regarding Henderson, I would much rather be in todays position of Championship caliber roster, with a real opportunity to win the LT position, and take his place on a loaded roster. If we had lost the Rose Bowl, that LT spot would still be up for grabs, But Henderson would be hearing from USC and FLorida that OSU will never win the big one. Regarding Floyd, the opportunity to step into the 2-deep on a powerful proven defense has to be appealing. The restriction of negative recruiting as a tool to turn a national recruit away from OSU, can only be helpful. Like Deety, I like winning, and can't see anything bad about it.
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That's what people said before the LSU game. And USC. And Texas. And USC. And yet OSU was right in the mix of the title talk. Even if OSU lost ot Oregon, if Pryor & co lit it up next fall, they'd be right in the mix again.
Then why are recruits going to SC? They haven't been a NC contender for 4 years.
Winning sure is nice and more helpful, but losing isn't anywhere near as impactful as fans think it is.
Wouldn't you think Urban Meyer leaving, then only for a year, then back next fall would have some fallout for kids given how worrisome that can be to not have your head coach? Well they've actually picked up momentum in recruiting since then.
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When OSU was on top of the CFB world after The Game 06 & Troy's heisman, they lost almost every blue-chip recruit watching those games (almost all before the NC game).
When OSU went to a second NC game and got beaten soundly again, they landed a lions share of recruits (many of them in the summer after the UF beatdown, and the biggest recruit ever after LSU).
When OSU got humiliated by USC and came up short again in the BCS, they still signed an elite class.
When OSU finally competed well with USC & beat Oregon, the rewards were minimal compared to the last two classes, even if they sign Henderson & Floyd.
Validating wins & scathing losses don't seem to have much impact.
When OSU went to a second NC game and got beaten soundly again, they landed a lions share of recruits (many of them in the summer after the UF beatdown, and the biggest recruit ever after LSU).
When OSU got humiliated by USC and came up short again in the BCS, they still signed an elite class.
When OSU finally competed well with USC & beat Oregon, the rewards were minimal compared to the last two classes, even if they sign Henderson & Floyd.
Validating wins & scathing losses don't seem to have much impact.
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MONTbigBuck
Heisman
=winslowjwinslow;1635218; said:
Absolutely agree. I am at peace that schools like Florida and USC will always have some "advantages" in their appeal to recruits. Weather,women in shorts everyday, glamour, salesmanship. This stuff has been covered thoroughly in many threads for years. I am at times suprised that USC has been able to continue to recruit nationally better than anyone. USC in relationship to their recruiting classes is the most under-achieving program in the country. Prior to the Meyer situation instability Florida was the echelon of college football. With todays uncertainty I will be dumbfounded if they get both Floyd and Henderson.
Josh, I get the impression from your response that I don't get the complexity of the recruiting world. I certainly do. Players pick their school for a myriad of reasons. In a factual, no-nonsense level OSU can compete on equal footing with any school. I am happy we don't have a car-salesman as our coach and heading our recruiting. Since coach Tressel was hired, and proceeded to move OSU back into the elite of College football, this is maybe the first time that we have gone into the home stretch in recruiting with real positive momentum(maybe my perception). In the cases of Floyd , Henderson, and Hankins these guys are all cold weather mid-western type of guys with real opportunity in our depth chart if they are ready. I am very curious to see if this positive aura surrounding the program leads to some success in landing a few of these guys. That's all. And by the way, I don't think anyone should be looking for a cliff if we don't finish well.
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