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Pitt and Beanie Fundraiser Issue (split and merged)

Buckeye1;696752; said:
It is silly then when a sports agent assisting these so call "communities" by offering the players' parents a house near the universities so they can attend their son's/daughter's game? How about the BP community help raise fund and buy TS a reliable vehicle? Where do you draw the line? I think this is a good rule to have so that those wealthier "communities" do not have potential influence over a recruit.

I can see rules not allowing the players to accept gifts, but their parent's too? Where does the line get drawn? What if the parent's neighbors gave them the money to go to the game as a Christmas present? Is that a violation? Because it seems to me that this was little more than that; a community trying to raise money for parents to go to the game. I understand the potential for abuse, but a program and its players should not be able to be penalized for things that happen outside of the program's control. You can hold an institution responsible for the conduct of players, but how can an instititution be held responsible for the conduct of the the player's family? Now is every gift, job, or good thing that happens to a player's family immediately suspect? A college has no ability or authority to control the actions of player's families, so why should they be held responsible for it? The NCAA rules go too far. They seem to have rules about stuff which a university has no ability to control. If I had the money myself, I would annonmously send a check to the Pittmans and the Wells. What would the NCAA do about that?
 
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With all due respect to both of these players, and whether Pittman and Wells received anything or not, they bloody well shouldn't have attending a dinner such as this.

The NCAA would not stop a church from collecting money to send a players parents to watch a game. Would they?

One thing is for sure, the NCAA rules would stop a player from participating in such an event. If a church wants to get together and do something for the parents, fine, but the players shouldn't be involved. That's the problem and both players should damn well know they were wrong to be there.
 
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Steve19;696780; said:
That's the problem and both players should damn well know they were wrong to be there.


Obviously they didn't...

For Ginn Sr's tribute last year, I remember the pics of the 20s & 50's pinned to his coat from folks paying respect....Teddy, Troy, and JamO were all there.

What is the difference?
 
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This story is out on alot of forums, and the general concensus is that the NCAA should not do anything as there was no money given to the families. Although, an interesting note, there were a few Gator fans that said they would have attended a dinner such as this to send the moms to see their son's play.
 
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Obviously they didn't...

For Ginn Sr's tribute last year, I remember the pics of the 20s & 50's pinned to his coat from folks paying respect....Teddy, Troy, and JamO were all there.

What is the difference?
Sounds to me like the dinner was being promoted as having buckeye players there. I'm not sure if that's how it was done, that's just what I got from it.

Either way, they are getting a financial benefit just because their kids play football at Ohio State, and that's not right. I don't recall the Ginn Sr thing, but it doesn't sound like that was a benefit to put $$$ in his pockets.
 
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strohs;696875; said:
But, as Steve19 said, they should have.

At the very least they should have asked before even thinking of attending an event like that.
Just plain stupid on their part.

And again, I ask how it is different from the Ginn Sr. tribute...if the kids see one event as ok, why would they assume another is not?

Dunno, I see what you are saying for sure...however, the more you are around kids, the more you understand that logical to us is not logical to them.
 
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