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Pick Your NC MVP

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COTiger;1030676; said:
Dorsey overrated. You wouldn't know it by the numerous awards he's hauled in the past month. He certainly wasn't the same player he was prior to the chop block in the Auburn game. If he's completely healed on January 7th, I think you will see plenty of Mr. Dorsey.
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This is the key. I had previously thought the same thing, but if you see the film on Dorsey from prior to the Auburn game, and especially last year, you'll see that he really is the real deal. He would have been better off to just sit completely and let that heal, instead of trying to play part-time for the next 4 weeks (although you can blame Miles for that).

I firmly believe that, defensive statistics notwithstanding, this is going to be an offensive, relatively high-scoring game. I see the final score somewhere around 38 - 35, 35-31, something like that. Both of these defenses are good, but they both have holes. Not trying to talk smack, but I feel that LSU's O-line and D secondary are vastly inferior when compared with OSU's D-line and WR's...similarly, I believe that LSU will have some success running Hester up the middle. It's going to come down to game-planning. If Miles tries to stretch the field and run outside, he is going to be very surprised at the speed of Ohio State's defense. If he sticks to his strengths, however, I do think they'll be able to score some points.

MVP: Donald Washington. I think this game is going to hinge on the QB's, because neither team is good enough to win without a balanced attack...and I think Boeckman will make fewer mistakes.
 
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FKAGobucks877;1030992; said:
This is the key. I had previously thought the same thing, but if you see the film on Dorsey from prior to the Auburn game, and especially last year, you'll see that he really is the real deal. He would have been better off to just sit completely and let that heal, instead of trying to play part-time for the next 4 weeks (although you can blame Miles for that).

I firmly believe that, defensive statistics notwithstanding, this is going to be an offensive, relatively high-scoring game. I see the final score somewhere around 38 - 35, 35-31, something like that. Both of these defenses are good, but they both have holes. Not trying to talk smack, but I feel that LSU's O-line and D secondary are vastly inferior when compared with OSU's D-line and WR's...similarly, I believe that LSU will have some success running Hester up the middle. It's going to come down to game-planning. If Miles tries to stretch the field and run outside, he is going to be very surprised at the speed of Ohio State's defense. If he sticks to his strengths, however, I do think they'll be able to score some points.

MVP: Donald Washington. I think this game is going to hinge on the QB's, because neither team is good enough to win without a balanced attack...and I think Boeckman will make fewer mistakes.
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Don't put the blame entirely on Miles for Dorsey continuing to play. On one of our Tiger forums we've got a couple of posters who are close to the team and they both said Dorsey made the decision to play after the injury.

I agree that both offenses will score although I don't know if it's going to be as high scoring as your projection. The current over/under is 50 1/2 and I can see a 27 - 24 or 28 - 21 score.
 
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I'm getting this feeling about Dorsey lately, that maybe he's using that injury to keep his draft status. Yes he's been injured and that chop block by Auburn was total B.S., but I think his conditioning might have actually played more into his late season decrease than anything. I watched him doing calisthenics on the sidelines during the SEC championship game and thought to myself "I thought this guys back was injured?" Just an observation on my point entirely but I just got a feeling he was slowing down. The month off may get him rested back up and he could come out dominating but I'm going to go with my gut on this one. My offensive MVP will be the Ohio State Offensive Line. I know Barton and Boone are still pissed about last season and I'm guessing their leadership will pull Cordle, Person and Rehring along enough to limit Dorsey's big plays. He'll still get some but I dont think he'll implode our offense like they need him to, at least I hope he doesnt! Defensive MVP I'm going with Larry Grant. He's going into his 4th NC game without a win and I think he'll make a deciding play on defense. Most likely sack of the QB and cause a fumble which will propel us to the winning score. My two choices anyway.

Offense: Offensive Line collectively
Defense: LB Larry Grant

BTW I'm not trying to knock Dorsey here just stating my opinion. I also believe that when fresh and healthy he's more than a load to contend with.
 
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COTiger;1031180; said:
Don't put the blame entirely on Miles for Dorsey continuing to play. On one of our Tiger forums we've got a couple of posters who are close to the team and they both said Dorsey made the decision to play after the injury.

I agree that both offenses will score although I don't know if it's going to be as high scoring as your projection. The current over/under is 50 1/2 and I can see a 27 - 24 or 28 - 21 score.
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I know if I was Dorsey, or any player for that matter, I would play (and insist on playing) if I was able to get myself onto the field (regardless of how "hurt" I was). IMO, it's the coaches job to know when a player is not 100%, or could be hurt further, and he has multiple people (assistant coaches, trainers, etc.) to help him with that. Even if that's not the case, he is still the head coach, and it is still his responsibility. Either way, hindsight being 20/20, I think it was definitely a mistake for him to try to gut that out....if, in fact, the "injury" was the reason for his ineffectiveness (I have to believe it was, since his PT was limited during that stretch).
 
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COTiger;1029565; said:
You're going to see Hester run between the tackles. As I stated previously the key to his success is the O line blocking. If you stuff him on a consistant basis that's a good sign for you. It's just a hunch but I think we may have a better chance running the ball between the tackles than taking it wide.
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No, no.. I understand that.

What I'm saying is.. if speed and the spread is the SECs bread n butter, power running and stuffing the run is the Buckeyes.
 
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Bleed S & G;1032141; said:
No, no.. I understand that.

What I'm saying is.. if speed and the spread is the SECs bread n butter, power running and stuffing the run is the Buckeyes.
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The SEC speed thing is an urban legend. Someone recently posted a breakout by position of both teams 40 times. I think you guys had the edge (albeit small) in most of the categories.

Trindon Holliday our WR has got speed to burn, but with his small stature he needs it.

It's going to come down to excecuting the fundementals, e.g., blocking & tackling. Whoever does is best probably comes out on top.
 
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Tigerkid05;1030480; said:
the lines in vegas are getting closer. I think LSU is almost becoming an underdog because people seem to think that since OSU is the underdog, they will win because of the underdog status, thus that makes OSU a favorite and LSU, which is the favorite, has become the underdog...digest that for awhile.:biggrin:
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It wouldn't surprise me if the vegas lines are getting closer. What that probably means is that to this point there have been alot more people taking tOSU and the points thus far. Vegas might need to reduce the spread to entice some people to take LSU so that if tOSU wins (like they very well might), Vegas won't lose their ass having to pay out to everyone.

Trust me. Buckeyes plus points in this game is a strong bet. The Buckeyes have a good chance to win the game outright!

As an LSU fan I'm sure you think I don't know what I'm talking about, right?

I'd be willing to bet that most LSU fans haven't seen a single Buckeye game all season. I, on the other hand, am a Buckeye fan and I've had the opportunity to see multiple LSU games on CBS including LSU's two loses. LSU fans can feel as confident as they want to but the truth is that the Tigers don't have much, if any advantage on the Buckeyes this season. Trust me. They don't.

If the game wasn't being played in your own backyard you might already be the outright underdog. Regardless of what Mark May might think!

LSU is the media's sexy pick but college football fans that use their brains and think for themselves and watch the games for themselves and form their own opinions should know that in reality, this game could go either way. If you are a betting man, whoever is getting the points is probably the safest bet. These two teams ARE that close to each other.

LSU fans that think this is in the bag are setting themselves up for a huge letdown. Take it from me, I did the same thing last season that many LSU fans seem to be doing now.

41-14 is HUGE motivation. Simply HUGE! You know what else is HUGE, my picks for MVP!

MVP: Boone, Rehring, Cordle, Person, and Barton.

(For those LSU fans that haven't seen any Buckeye games this year, those 5 gargantuans make up the best offensive line in the nation.)

Honorable mention MVP: Jim Tressel.

Go Buckeyes!!!!
 
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