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PF/C Kosta Koufos (CSKA Moscow)

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OSUBasketballJunkie;1146692; said:
It is somewhat crazy how the NBA drafts on potential and they like to project players down the road, production in college is one factor but what KK has that most do not is 7-1 size and a perimeter game to go along with a developing inside game.....with that combination and his performance in the workout circuit......I would expect him to be a late lottery to mid first round pick.....you cannot teach his size and ability to shoot.....

Believe me....I would love to see him back on campus next year.....but this is the reality of college basketball.....it is a revolving door every year for the top programs.
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same thoughts.
 
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Bestbuck35 said:
Thats just craziness! No way is he a lottery player at this point. This "drafting on potential" crap is one of the major reasons the NBA sucks now. Its a one-on-one league with little or no fundamental basketball played.
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Craziness? He's about to get paid $4 million a year (or whatever the rookie limit is) to play basketball and likely be on a team with a chance to make the playoffs his first year (if he's drafted in the 12-18 range), or a chance to be paired up with a good or improving PG who can get him the ball where it needs to be for him to succeed....

Hell if that's crazy, then it's crazy like a fox. And you must have watched a LOT of the Eastern Conference and none of the Western conference to believe what you said about the league itself. This was one of the better NBA seasons in at least 5 years likely longer.

Bestbuck36;1146500; said:
The thing about Kosta is that defensively he is going to be a liability in the NBA for a couple years most likely.
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So he'll fit in perfectly then. Seriously outside of the Spurs and maybe Utah, most TEAMS in the NBA only play defense when they want too. Koufos improved a lot on defense especially late in the year.

He's not strong enough to play the 5 man and the 4's in the NBA are too athletic and strong for him.
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Now, offensively he'll cause the same type mismatches so it may be a wash when his stroke is on. If he ends up on a team with a bonafide center he'll do well playing the 4 spot while getting stronger he can improve his shooting and be a matchup nightmare down the road.
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If his skills on the offensive end continue to improve teams won't need a "bonafide center" anyway. They'll play the running game a lot like teams do now with him at a 4 and a 6'10" guy (or so) playing the 5....


Can you imagine Portland drafting KK, say in the second round and pairing him and Oden with Roy on that offense as well? Yikes! That would be a lot of fun to watch.
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If KK is still available in the draft after #10, I'll be shocked.
 
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The Greek reporter, from the newspaper Sport Day, said Olympiakos has offered Koufos a reported $5 million for four years. He also said it has been rumored that one of Olympiakos? top competitors, Panathinaikos, could raise that offer to $5.5 million.

How does that compare to what Koufos would receive as a first-round choice in the NBA draft?
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The one fact that this writer does not address and most of us know about it and it is called the Federal income tax. I know there are ways to get around paying some of it but if he would play in Greece no federal or state taxes. It would be interesting to see the estimated salary in the U. S. after taxes.
If KK is still available in the draft after #10, I'll be shocked.
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I will be shocked if he goes in the first 10. I think he has a long way to go defensively to contribute in the NBA and you just cannot live on offense on a playoff caliber team.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1147056; said:
Exactly how many teams drafting in the top 10 are "playoff caliber"??
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I'm sorry I meant that the top 10 teams picking in the draft are hoping to get to the playoffs and that is why they draft. I just think Kostas has to get much more stronger then be able to play defense to make it in the NBA. I don't know how long a team is willing to wait on that type of improvement. I just don't see him matching up very well against other PFs in the NBA on defense.

Charlotte:huh:
 
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Like Speights for us, I think Kostas' best choice would be to return to school so he can get stronger and he would definitely get better if he came back. If he does decide to stay in the draft, I see him going anywhere from the middle to the end of the 1st round or possible very early second round. If he can come back and improve next season he should be a lottery pick. But I wish him luck no matter what he decides.
 
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Don't understand how mom feels he was used wrong. The Big Ten is probably the perfect conference for him on a physicality level. He can't just play with his face to the basket in the NBA. He can dominate in Greece of course. Nowitski didn't become a dominant player until he could play with his back to the basket in the league. Being a 7 footer with his talent, having both skills will always be required. I just don't want to see him turn into Milicic, and be forgotten about.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1146814; said:
Craziness? He's about to get paid $4 million a year (or whatever the rookie limit is) to play basketball and likely be on a team with a chance to make the playoffs his first year (if he's drafted in the 12-18 range), or a chance to be paired up with a good or improving PG who can get him the ball where it needs to be for him to succeed....

Hell if that's crazy, then it's crazy like a fox. And you must have watched a LOT of the Eastern Conference and none of the Western conference to believe what you said about the league itself. This was one of the better NBA seasons in at least 5 years likely longer.
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By craziness I was referring to the NBA's penchant for drafting unproven players so high up based on potential when there are more proven players available. If you are the defending champs or finalists maybe I could see drafting someone whom you think will be the missing ingrediant when they put it together, but lottery teams need more than a filler and drafting on potential keeps you in the cellar for a long, long time such as the Cavs history will show.

As far as what basketball I've watched this season: I'm a Suns season ticket holder and watch roughly 25 games a season live. The fundamentals of basketball are a thing of the past. The teams who are the most athletic win the majority of games when in the past teams with less athleticism and more teamwork could go very far. The Spurs are more of a team than any other in the league with just the right playmakers at positions. I would say the Suns are maybe the most athletic team in the NBA (maybe the Celtics) but they falter when the shots arent falling because they lose their team cohesiveness. They cannot beat the Spurs because 5 individuals cannot beat 1 unit. Overall, the NBA as a product, sucks.
 
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twoodbuck97;1147321; said:
Don't understand how mom feels he was used wrong. The Big Ten is probably the perfect conference for him on a physicality level. He can't just play with his face to the basket in the NBA. He can dominate in Greece of course. Nowitski didn't become a dominant player until he could play with his back to the basket in the league. Being a 7 footer with his talent, having both skills will always be required. I just don't want to see him turn into Milicic, and be forgotten about.
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I think she wanted him to play outside more on offense rather than being used in the post which really wasn't that much. That's just my thought.
 
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LitlBuck;1147715; said:
I think she wanted him to play outside more on offense rather than being used in the post which really wasn't that much. That's just my thought.
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IF he comes back, he'll get that chance to play more outside. Mullens' inside game will allow Kosta to do what he does best and show the world what he can really do. Boy would that be a lot of fun to watch.

Otherwise, best of luck to Kosta. This is gotta be the lad's hardest decision of his life thus far: stay home in Ohio, go "back home" to Greece, or make the big jump to the league.
 
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