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1926Buckeyes said:
Taking this from the recruiting thread.

Their whole identity as a football program is so fucked up. An old demon coached there for 60 years, won 2 titles in 5 years, and then a total of 3 conference championships post ‘93. PSU won enough to stay relevant, but the real draw was JoePa and his following. The fans, media, and sport paid reverence to him, not Penn St, and it created monsters and a rudderless program after he left in disgrace.

The sooner they move on, the better, but they never will. His success is all they can point to that seperates them from Iowa or a dozen other decent programs. And the more they point to him as the pinnacle of football, the longer it’ll take to develop their own identity.

Franklin wasn’t a great coach but he was as or more consistent than JoePa was in his final 2 decades. And that’s all you really need to know about the quality of JoePa and their program.
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The fact that Pedsters(fans and alum alike) refer to JoePa as "God" should tell you all you need about how their fanbase thinks
 
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heisman said:
I think if PSU was on an island and 2010 transfer rules were in effect, you’d be spot on. At this rate, half of major college football will have a new coach and PSU‘s new head man can just import his old team and hit the ground running. I mean, that’s exactly what Cignetti did at IU, and that’s with JMU imports.
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Totally different programs and what they expected from their HC. Cignetti brought IU success out of the blue, and some of those wins last year were teams underestimating them. Cig was playing with house money, if he even took IU to 6 or 7 wins they would've seen him as a massive success. The next Ped St HC better hit the ground SPRINTING! A better comparison to what the next Ped St HC is walking into, is like DeBoer going to Bama. 2 losses, and fans wanted him run out of town after 1 season, 2 losses for IU and they're building a statue. 2 losses at Ped St and it'll be a similar scenario to Deboer, they will regret the hire after 1 year.
 
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pnuts34 said:
Totally different programs and what they expected from their HC. Cignetti brought IU success out of the blue, and some of those wins last year were teams underestimating them. Cig was playing with house money, if he even took IU to 6 or 7 wins they would've seen him as a massive success. The next Ped St HC better hit the ground SPRINTING! A better comparison to what the next Ped St HC is walking into, is like DeBoer going to Bama. 2 losses, and fans wanted him run out of town after 1 season, 2 losses for IU and they're building a statue. 2 losses at Ped St and it'll be a similar scenario to Deboer, they will regret the hire after 1 year.
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Well, certainly, expectations mean a lot. But, in terms of personnel, Franklin ran a development program, similar to Dabo. How else can you explain their total void at WR? Recruit attrition isn’t going to affect the new coach in the short term. He’s going to have to hit the transfer portal aggressively, because if he doesn’t, then you’ll have described his outcome to perfection.
 
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