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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I think you're right. But I wonder why. Are there other fans who think that the college football world revolves around them? Do Alabama fans act like this? Syracuse fans? Nebraska or Texas fans? Not that I've seen, but I've only been drawn to Penn State message boards BECAUSE they act like this.
Did Paterno start this mentality? Or is he deified BECAUSE of this mentality?
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It's a rare combination of being independent for so long while having success with a single coach. You shield yourself off from the rest of the world, follow one man, pick and choose the chumps you can play............if it walks like a cult and quacks like a cult.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
I absolutely believe they're a cult. But I didn't know why them and no one else. You have good points, but they could also be said about Notre Dame. Maybe they don't have one coach for a million years, and not quite as shielded. Maybe they're also a cult.
So how many years will it take the Big Ten to un-cult them? Will that ever happen?
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I don't think it will. It's been handed down that they belong at the big boy table from grand parent to parent to child. They BELONG. They DESERVE. Why isn't everybody talking about Penn State's pair of titles the way they talk about Alabama's 37? IT'S NOT FAIR!
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When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
For so many years, they did whatever they wanted. Schedule who they want, when they want, where they want. Pick their own refs. Nobody told them what to do. They had the privilege of setting themselves up for success with every decision JoePa made. When they were no longer able to make their own rules, any decision that went against them felt like an attack because they had never never experienced not getting what they want. It's like raising a kid and never telling them "no" -- that kid is going to turn out terribly. Even 30+ years after joining the Big Ten, that mindset has been passed down from generation to generation of PSU fans. TCUN fans have inherited arrogance. ND fans have inherited self-righteousness. PSU fans have inherited victimhood. Fuck them.
For so many years, they did whatever they wanted. Schedule who they want, when they want, where they want. Pick their own refs. Nobody told them what to do. They had the privilege of setting themselves up for success with every decision JoePa made. When they were no longer able to make their own rules, any decision that went against them felt like an attack because they had never never experienced not getting what they want. It's like raising a kid and never telling them "no" -- that kid is going to turn out terribly. Even 30+ years after joining the Big Ten, that mindset has been passed down from generation to generation of PSU fans. TCUN fans have inherited arrogance. ND fans have inherited self-righteousness. PSU fans have inherited victimhood. Fuck them.
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Pennsylvania Man also has this weird level of genetic destiny to be seen/believe that they are a victim.
Add that to all the above stuff and you have the Penn State Cult in all its sickness.
Add that to all the above stuff and you have the Penn State Cult in all its sickness.
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I can only tell you that growing up in L.A. during the Pete Carroll era, the condum fans thought the entire college football world revolved around them.
They've been oddly quite for the past 15 years or so. Can't imagine why...
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They are located in the middle of Pennsyltucky. It's a rural area with very little to impress anyone from "the big city". The nearest big cities are in advanced states of decay in the Rust Belt, the closest being Pittsburgh. The only thing that they really had to celebrate was football and then the sexcapades blew that one.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
The foundation for their obsessions with HOLDING. In the Eastern independent days, whenever an opponent would get rolling offensively, there'd be a hail of phantom holding calls. When those calls didn't show up in the Big Ten, they naturally assumed it was all a 'speeracy to keep Paterno down.
There's a reason that Pitt, WVU, Syracuse and others wanted zero part of Paterno's proposed Eastern Conference, and the first thing they did after joining the Big East was to blackball his ass from joining that conference.
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Have you been to Pittsburgh in the last 25 years? I'd hardly call it being in decay. They seem to have really renewed themselves after deindustrialization, something that Cleveland and Detroit are still struggling with today.
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That is great to hear, ORD. I haven't been there for more than a decade and it was a wasteland of unrented small business/small professional firm office space (e.g., the look of the Columbus Builder's Exchange and those professional offices along Rt33) and the rusted closed steel mill operations.
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