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I don't know why I was even reading that thread. It's pretty lame.
But they start arguing about whether they should root for the Big Ten or not.
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/worst-case-scenario-for-psu.327882/page-2
Then, one of my favorite arguments came up:
So... I may be reading more into this post than I should be, but I've seen it much more clear than this one. The argument is that the Big Ten voters kept Penn State out of the championship. I love it.
First, because no, they didn't. Check out this map:
Let's just assume it is correct, based on the fact that the link has "PSU" in the URL: http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/j/e/jed124/1994_AP_Vote_Maps.html
And it's a post bitching about how the Big Ten was bullying the new kid.
And according to this site: https://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=1994, Penn State got 10.5 first place votes, and Nebraska got 51.5 first place votes. I count 10 Penn State logos in the above map. Since I can't count to 51, I'll assume that part is correct.
First, eff that nerd who didn't make a decision. It looks like that 1 guy gave Nebraska 24.5 points and Penn State 24.5 points.
Take him out and there are 61 voters. 51 picked Nebraska, and 10 picked Penn State.
Total points becomes 1515 for Nebraska, and 1473 for Penn State.
Take out their first place votes, and Nebraska has 240 points from 10 voters = 24 points per voter = all picked Nebraska #2.
Take out their first place votes, and Penn State has 1223 points from 51 voters = 23.98 points per voter. If we guess one jerk picked Penn State #3, they have 1200 points from 50 voters = 24 points per voter. So Penn State got 10 first place votes, 50 second place votes, and 1 third place vote.
Next, let's say I can assume I know which state the logos belong in. I count 3 N's in Illinois (one might be Missouri, though), 1 N in Indiana, 1 N in *ichigan, 4 N's in Ohio, 2 N's in Pennsylvania (hahaha!). Iowa also has 1 N, but they're shared with Big 12. I see 5 P's in those states. I see 4 P's in SEC states, and 1 way out there in Utah. Now let's just say we can flip all those N's to P's, because.. Big Ten support and stuff. That's 12 N's that become P's (counting the one in Iowa). That gives Penn State 22 first place votes, 38 second place votes, and 1 third place vote. (I'm assuming one of the N's flipping to Penn State wasn't a 3rd place vote.) Nebraska still has 39 first place votes and 22 second place votes. So cry all you want about Big Ten support, it wouldn't have given Penn State a championship in 1994.
Also, you didn't even get a majority of the voters in your own state. Stop crying about conference allegiance.
Finally, all of that is irrelevant because it doesn't really address the number of voters that the Big Ten actually has: ZERO! The Big Ten has zero voters. The Big 12 has zero voters. Neither conference had any in 1994, either. Stop your whining about this.
But they start arguing about whether they should root for the Big Ten or not.
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/worst-case-scenario-for-psu.327882/page-2
Then, one of my favorite arguments came up:
So... I may be reading more into this post than I should be, but I've seen it much more clear than this one. The argument is that the Big Ten voters kept Penn State out of the championship. I love it.
First, because no, they didn't. Check out this map:
Let's just assume it is correct, based on the fact that the link has "PSU" in the URL: http://www.personal.psu.edu/staff/j/e/jed124/1994_AP_Vote_Maps.html
And it's a post bitching about how the Big Ten was bullying the new kid.
And according to this site: https://collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?seasonid=1994, Penn State got 10.5 first place votes, and Nebraska got 51.5 first place votes. I count 10 Penn State logos in the above map. Since I can't count to 51, I'll assume that part is correct.
First, eff that nerd who didn't make a decision. It looks like that 1 guy gave Nebraska 24.5 points and Penn State 24.5 points.
Take him out and there are 61 voters. 51 picked Nebraska, and 10 picked Penn State.
Total points becomes 1515 for Nebraska, and 1473 for Penn State.
Take out their first place votes, and Nebraska has 240 points from 10 voters = 24 points per voter = all picked Nebraska #2.
Take out their first place votes, and Penn State has 1223 points from 51 voters = 23.98 points per voter. If we guess one jerk picked Penn State #3, they have 1200 points from 50 voters = 24 points per voter. So Penn State got 10 first place votes, 50 second place votes, and 1 third place vote.
Next, let's say I can assume I know which state the logos belong in. I count 3 N's in Illinois (one might be Missouri, though), 1 N in Indiana, 1 N in *ichigan, 4 N's in Ohio, 2 N's in Pennsylvania (hahaha!). Iowa also has 1 N, but they're shared with Big 12. I see 5 P's in those states. I see 4 P's in SEC states, and 1 way out there in Utah. Now let's just say we can flip all those N's to P's, because.. Big Ten support and stuff. That's 12 N's that become P's (counting the one in Iowa). That gives Penn State 22 first place votes, 38 second place votes, and 1 third place vote. (I'm assuming one of the N's flipping to Penn State wasn't a 3rd place vote.) Nebraska still has 39 first place votes and 22 second place votes. So cry all you want about Big Ten support, it wouldn't have given Penn State a championship in 1994.
Also, you didn't even get a majority of the voters in your own state. Stop crying about conference allegiance.
Finally, all of that is irrelevant because it doesn't really address the number of voters that the Big Ten actually has: ZERO! The Big Ten has zero voters. The Big 12 has zero voters. Neither conference had any in 1994, either. Stop your whining about this.
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