Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Zurp]

I didn't know if this belonged here or under the CJ Stroud thread. I'm laughing at the Cult, so I put it here.

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/a-college-education-in-the-21-st-century.319574/
The original poster just links the following article:
https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/ohio-state-qb-c-j-stroud-driving-200k-mercedes-in-nil-deal/

More reply asking if he even goes to class. Of course, the article is just about how he has the $200k vehicle - not about whether he goes to class. But the cult think that he's getting paid at Ohio State - why would we think he might actually be going to class?

Do players like him even have to attend class anymore? As I've said before, why not just dispense with the pretense, and consider players like him as employees of the school rather than student-athletes, which we all know they aren't.

The questions that are looming and what does bother many of us is: are they going to college and heading toward a degree? If not, should they even be in college? That is what is purported to be on the field and noted as peers of the student sections. College athletics is very definitely socialistic: the revenue sports support the non-revenue sports which are pretty much everything else (we all know the handful of the revenue sports). What happens to these, are they and can they be sacrificed over escalating costs at the revenue teams? I certainly don’t want those kids losing their dreams. If it becomes an employee scenario, does that even make sense for a college sport. Like it or not, it is college.

 

[Zurp]

Same thread. They're still whining about college players being paid. This guy is my new favorite:

Does our top wrestler get a nice Infiniti or something like that? Answer no. Does the O$U top golfer get something? No. Just these spoiled, prima donna football players.

Put them all in a farm league like minor league baseball and get them the hell out of college. The NFL needs to figure out some kind of minor league.

Leave the actual college football to real students and that applies to PSU as it does any other school.

What would be funny is you then do something where you have a cap on the college HC coaches salary at $250K a year. Still more than generous. They become a real employee of the university coaching real college kids who go to class and are real students. Maybe they have to teach a class?!

No special treatment for the these football players. These overpaid coaches like Franklin, etc could have an option to coach in the minor leagues of the NFL but there would be a limit to what they get paid there as well. What does a triple A minor league manager make? Start with that. Sound good James?

Same guy, very next post:

Force college football to only be for the true student athlete. No one higher than a 1 or 2 star allowed to play! All others off to the NFL farm league. Gotta be some way to clean up this farce and get rid of these football players masquerading as a student.

So what about the 3, 4, or 5-star player who really wants a college education? Well, he answers that in the very next post:

Wish Joe was alive and younger. He would have been a beacon of light and sense amongst all this ridiculousness. He knew college football had tons of slimeballs like Jackie Sherrill, etc. His Grand Experiment was genius. Try to go emulate that in some way.

I think the money grubbing, non student athlete types are banned from college football. Even if they are a football player who could make the NFL and a good or great student then you can go to college but not play football, hit the farm league. Go to school first then hit the farm league like a military commitment but no college football. Or try your hand at the farm league first in hopes of the NFL and get your degree later. If you get into college then the school can honor that acceptance when you are ready but you cannot play football if you went to the farm league.

I know this is way out there but the basic premise of not allowing these football players who are just about money and going to the NFL to play college football is a valid argument.

So... basically, here's my analogy: Elon Musk, you're doing so well for yourself, you should just stop. Doing business shouldn't be about hiring the best guys to do even better. It should be about the people who just want to try hard. And if you're too good at your job, you should go off and form a minor league somewhere.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I like how they think forcing all of these talented players out of college football and into a farm league somehow means they would be the only ones unaffected. Because of course Penn State doesn't do what every other school in the country does. They're the only pure ones.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

The "Grand Experiment" myth that Joeped drilled into their brains for decades: that their team was full of not only the best players in the country but the best players in the country who were all Rhodes Scholar candidates majoring in astrophysics.

They truly believe that if there was a true NFL minor league that it would gut all the other bluebloods and they'd still be full of great athletes because they'd get all the great athletes who want an education.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

So an experiment usually has procedures and whatnot. Have any of these psychos ever listed the actual things that Joesus did to make sure they were the lone clean program in a sea full of cheaters?

 

[Buckeye86]

No doubt they are handling this well.

 

[Zurp]

So an experiment usually has procedures and whatnot. Have any of these psychos ever listed the actual things that Joesus did to make sure they were the lone clean program in a sea full of cheaters?

Hm. Interesting question. I wonder if the Grand Experiment was ever documented, at all?
Google will know... right?

So, not the first hit, but before anything related to "Penn State" or "Joe Paterno", https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Grand_Experiment.
I take that to mean that Google thinks Star Wars nerds are more important than what Joe Paterno was actually doing (or what people claimed he was doing).

 

[BB73]

I like how they think forcing all of these talented players out of college football and into a farm league somehow means they would be the only ones unaffected. Because of course Penn State doesn't do what every other school in the country does. They're the only pure ones.

You owe me a new one.

 

[Zurp]

https://www.wtae.com/article/state-...and-condition-of-joe-paterno-statue/40373960#

Some nerd in the Pennsylvania Senate has decided that knowing the condition of the statue is more important than the school getting its funding. He attached that amendment to a bill that provides $242 million to Penn State, and millions more to Pitt, Temple, and Lincoln University. Basically, "Tell us where the statue is and its condition, or you don't get your moolah." The bill passed the senate and has been introduced to the House.

How great would it be if they really, truly don't know where it is? "We stuck it in Storeroom 58F in 2012, and it's gone. Someone must have stolen it." The state calls their bluff, and doesn't pay, and all those schools lose their funding. Ha.

 

[Abenaki]

I guess I just don't have the proper mental illness to understand why statues matter so much to some people. It's been 10 years, dude. Let it go.

 

[Zurp]

I guess I just don't have the proper mental illness to understand why statues matter so much to some people. It's been 10 years, dude. Let it go.

I AM quite amazed that nothing has come out since the day that statue was removed. How many workers removed the statue? None of them was contacted or bribed to tell his story? They put the statue in a truck or a van. No one followed the van? Got a license plate number or anything? No one snooped into figuring out who the driver was? And you can't just put something into a storage room without SOMEONE knowing about it. That guy (or lady or whatever) hasn't been able to sell his/her story? No one has been snooping around, looking for something entirely unrelated, and happened on it? Is it like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark? Is there a giant warehouse somewhere with millions of square feet full of crates of... well, maybe that's a pile of more questions for another day.

Is the mob involved? Does a mob boss have it in his basement? How cool would it be if some Rutgers fan has it and he uses it for a hat rack?

 

[Abenaki]

They've got top men working on it. Top. Men.

 

[AJHawkfan]

I AM quite amazed that nothing has come out since the day that statue was removed. How many workers removed the statue? None of them was contacted or bribed to tell his story? They put the statue in a truck or a van. No one followed the van? Got a license plate number or anything? No one snooped into figuring out who the driver was? And you can't just put something into a storage room without SOMEONE knowing about it. That guy (or lady or whatever) hasn't been able to sell his/her story? No one has been snooping around, looking for something entirely unrelated, and happened on it? Is it like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark? Is there a giant warehouse somewhere with millions of square feet full of crates of... well, maybe that's a pile of more questions for another day.

Is the mob involved? Does a mob boss have it in his basement? How cool would it be if some Rutgers fan has it and he uses it for a hat rack?

I'd start (and probably finish) the search at Franco's house. The only reason he hasn't been hauling it around to all the rallies is because the cardboard cutout is so much lighter.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

And Pennsylvania are some cheap bitches when it comes to higher education funding. Ohio's no gem, but last time I looked our annual take (instructional subsidy+bonus for having the system's highest retention and graduation rates+half the biennial capitol appropriations take) came to about $425M or twice what PA gives to the pedsters.