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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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BUCKYLE said:
I didn't want them to sign the decree. At all.
I wanted more digging.
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Freeh dug. 3,500,000 e-mails.

As has been proven in recent court releases, he was also in CONSTANT contact with Mark Emmert beginning in December 2011. Who knows why those two were talking that early, giving each other status reports and asking each other questions and feeding information back and forth (again, I'm not making any of this up --- these things occurred and has been proven via recent court releases).

Emmert was not Freeh's client. Penn State was his client. A consultant --- what I do in real life and what Freeh was --- does not owe anything to anybody else besides his client, unless the client approves.

Now, maybe Penn State approved those contacts, but if they did NOT, that's clearly unprofessional conduct on Freeh's part. If/when Emmert calls, you direct him to "talk to Penn State, not me, I don't work directly for you." If he continues to call, you continue with that message. Maybe we'll get an answer someday to whether Penn State approved those contacts --- but up to now, nobody talks.

Anyway, point being ---- that's a lot of e-mails and Emmert, for whatever reasons, DID have Freeh's ear early and often. As Emmert proved beginning in November 2011 when he publicly released his letter of inquiry to the general public, he was not going to be shy about looking to hammer Penn State.

If there was something else there --- it would have been in the Freeh Report. But, there wasn't. I'm fairly confident given the above, the omission of "anything additional" is decent circumstantial evidence that there WAS NOT "anything additional."
 
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BUCKYLE said:
Sounds to me like Freeh read something too disturbing to say in any report so with PSU's blessing he talked [Mark May] over with Emmert. Emmert says here, sign this and let's never speak of this again. The report contains just enough dirt to get the monsters justifiably fuckin fired. Done.

Then the crazies are like "hold on a min..."
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This
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Oh Joesus, praise be upon him. Why, exactly? Just because they proved that people's safety comes second at best to the interests of the football team? Because not only did they allow children of the community to be harmed initially....but they also allowed more and more of the same due to their inactions, all to protect the myth of one man?




Oh wait. That's right. Those are actually valid reasons.
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FIFY
 
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BUCKYLE said:
Sounds to me like Freeh read something too disturbing to say in any report so with PSU's blessing he talked [Mark May] over with Emmert. Emmert says here, sign this and let's never speak of this again. The report contains just enough dirt to get the monsters justifiably fuckin fired. Done.

Then the crazies are like "hold on a min..."
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Maybe so, nothing is impossible. But, if I'm reading this right --- you are implying that Emmert HIMSELF got all publicly morally outraged about what happened, but at the same time got in bed with both Freeh and other Penn State folk in covering-up things. Covering up things that are even worse (?!?!?) than what was listed in the Freeh Report.

That's what you're saying here, right?

No offense, but that's a bat-shit crazy hypothesis IMO and I don't think it makes ANY logical sense. I also don't think you can point to a single thing tangible to support your theory.

As you know, the Freeh Report wasn't necessary to get anybody fired. C/S/S being indicted back in November 2011 was MORE than enough to get that done.
 
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I love how the nutjobs think that rally is actually something to brag about. Even the school newspaper called them out on the tug speedwell debacle.

I can't remember precisely, but is demlion part of the "no blood; no rape" and "look at the size of his hands" crowd? I'd say that there's no way somebody like that could wind up on the PSU board, but look at Lubrano and the other crazies that the alumni have elected.
 
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409fold said:
No offense, but that's a bat-[Mark May] crazy hypothesis IMO and I don't think it makes ANY logical sense. I also don't think you can point to a single thing tangible to support your theory.
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I have a theory. It goes something like this.....

For years, the Penn State Administration, Board of Trustees and quite literally everyone of authority within the State of Pennsylvania all the way up to the Governor were all horribly jealous of how beloved Joe Paterno was and how the public seemed to love everything he did, while hating everything they did. So, in order to bring Joe down a peg or two, they organized a huge conspiracy to make the football program, and specifically, he himself look really bad. They found some wayward children who were able to be bought and convinced them to fabricate a story that one of Joe's longtime assistants and best friends had been secretly abusing them sexually for years. This "abuse" was supposed to have taken place not only on PSU's campus, but right inside the football locker room! These "victims" - or whatever you want to call them -were happy to tell their tale in court in order to collect their paychecks of millions of dollars apiece. Once the plan came together, the evil Board of Trustees had all the ammunition they needed to fire the people's beloved JoePa and that's exactly what they did. Poor Joe died of a broken heart only a few short months later. He is still looking down on his beloved Penn State, sometimes making an appearance in cloud formations or ice cream sundaes.

Yeah, I see your batshit crazy hypothesis and raise you tenfold......And as far as not seeing a single thing tangible to support my theory, who the hell needs FAX and EVIDENTS?!
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I love how the nutjobs think that rally is actually something to brag about. Even the school newspaper called them out on the tug speedwell debacle.

I can't remember precisely, but is demlion part of the "no blood; no rape" and "look at the size of his hands" crowd? I'd say that there's no way somebody like that could wind up on the PSU board, but look at Lubrano and the other crazies that the alumni have elected.
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I can't remember if that was DemLion or Davidmongoloid....it was one of those two....
 
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409fold said:
OK, I shall play along. Why? What would that have accomplished?
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Because one of the most heinous crimes imaginable was allowed (if not aided/abetted) to occur multiple times in a place of "higher learning".

there should be nothing that could redeem that place now. Tear it all down, Salt the Earth and use it as a lesson.

And that's before we get into the fact that the athletic department alone was entirely not audited or controlled for decades. It's also not taking into account that the THON money doesn't do jack but line the pockets of those who run that shitty little hospital in Hershey....
 
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BUCKYLE said:
It wasn't enough to justifiably fire Paterno, cause, ya know, people are still coming up with ridiculous theories about how everyone in PA lied just to fire some sweet old man who built libraries
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No offense, but I don't get your point here. Paterno WAS fired in November 2011. If the indictments didn't occur, and if the grand jury report wasn't released, that wouldn't have happened. Right?
 
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409fold said:
No offense, but I don't get your point here. Paterno WAS fired in November 2011. If the indictments didn't occur, and if the grand jury report wasn't released, that wouldn't have happened. Right?
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They thought they had released enough dirt so that even cult members would have to admit firing Joe was the only logical thing to do.

Then students flipped a news van and the nut jobs just got riled up
 
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BUCKYLE said:
They thought they had released enough dirt so that even cult members would have to admit firing Joe was the only logical thing to do.

Then students flipped a news van and the nut jobs just got riled up
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Well, as I said, your hypothesis is not impossible.

But, as you must admit, your hypothesis is solely a hypothesis. The Freeh Report has tangible evidence and facts. Your hypothesis has neither.

In the absence of anything tangible, I think it is fair to give folk the benefit of the doubt, ESPECIALLY when your claim is something pretty damn serious: that Emmert & Freeh & current Penn State officials are currently covering up something WORSE then what came out in the Freeh Report.

That is what your are claiming, correct? That Emmert & Freeh & current Penn State officials are currently covering up something WORSE than what C/S/S covered up? Yes or no?
 
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