Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[409fold]

Read it again, dude.....

Rise of a new rule?

On your question, fond memories - yes.... Do I have a piece of the basketball arena he delivered it in, along with some bull[Mark May] commentary? No.

Is "the rail" and the words that are on it (in part) a piece of Penn State propaganda? Sure.

Ultimately, you as an Ohio State fan are NOT the intended audience though. "The rail" and other stuff like what years are listed along the ring of the stadium --- it is for Penn State folk to decide on that sort of stuff.

Honestly, the July 2012 "should the JoePa statue stay up or should it come down" debate annoyed me a bit --- non-PSU folk were entitled to their opinion but none of them seemed to realize that their opinions were rather irrelevant. It was Penn State's statue and Penn State's decision. Let Penn State folk decide.

 

[Bill Lucas]

Let Penn State folk decide.

Because we can all see how sound those decisions have been in the past?

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Is "the rail" and the words that are on it (in part) a piece of Penn State propaganda? Sure.

Ultimately, you as an Ohio State fan are NOT the intended audience though. "The rail" and other stuff like what years are listed along the ring of the stadium --- it is for Penn State folk to decide on that sort of stuff.

Honestly, the July 2012 "should the JoePa statue stay up or should it come down" debate annoyed me a bit --- non-PSU folk were entitled to their opinion but none of them seemed to realize that their opinions were rather irrelevant. It was Penn State's statue and Penn State's decision. Let Penn State folk decide.

A bunch of douchebag frat boys picked up a piece of the stadium that fell off and turned it into a shrine. That's weird.

 

[Zurp]

In response to their whine of "This never happens to OSU", an OSU fan says that we got properly fucked against Illinois in 07. This was their reply
I would LOVE to see their reaction if it happened to them. I'm sure they'd be all level headed and say "relax guys, it was a bad call, but it's on us for not challenging it and it's only the first quarter."

Yeah - what quarter was it when we got that "interception" last year? Was that Bell? Apple? Anyway, yeah - first quarter.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Is "the rail" and the words that are on it (in part) a piece of Penn State propaganda? Sure.

Ultimately, you as an Ohio State fan are NOT the intended audience though. "The rail" and other stuff like what years are listed along the ring of the stadium --- it is for Penn State folk to decide on that sort of stuff.

Honestly, the July 2012 "should the JoePa statue stay up or should it come down" debate annoyed me a bit --- non-PSU folk were entitled to their opinion but none of them seemed to realize that their opinions were rather irrelevant. It was Penn State's statue and Penn State's decision. Let Penn State folk decide.

Penn State folks can be the intended audience all you want but when outsiders see things like "the rail" and other weakness along the ring of pretty good years we are going to laugh at it.

Similar to other schools trying to distort the reality of their "tradition" by claiming a bunch of NC's from days long gone.

"The rail" is an amazing bit of "spoke too soon" delusion, for which the PSU fanbase is well known, captured for posterity. Claiming that game was some kind of watershed moment in which PSU began it's "reign" over the B1G is so far from the reality one can't help but laugh.

The immediate two years following that game OSU went 2-0 vs PSU, and played in back to back NC games while Penn State was playing in the Outback and Alamo following 4 loss seasons.

A new rule?

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Can't really improve on what Jax said.

 

[409fold]

Penn State folks can be the intended audience all you want but when outsiders see things like "the rail" and other weakness along the ring of pretty good years we are going to laugh at it.

Similar to other schools trying to distort the reality of their "tradition" by claiming a bunch of NC's from days long gone.

"The rail" is an amazing bit of "spoke too soon" delusion, for which the PSU fanbase is well known, captured for posterity. Claiming that game was some kind of watershed moment in which PSU began it's "reign" over the B1G is so far from the reality one can't help but laugh.

The immediate two years following that game OSU went 2-0 vs PSU, and played in back to back NC games while Penn State was playing in the Outback and Alamo following 4 loss seasons.

A new rule?

FWIW, I'm not "defending" "The Rail" ---- I'm being 100% honest here, I spend a lot (way too much) of my time following PSU football and such and I didn't know "The Rail" even existed until I visited this board earlier in 2015.

"The Rail" is "red meat for the true believers." Every fan base has those "true believer" sorts. The "new rule" wording is definitely silly in retrospect, but the 2005 Ohio State game was definitely memorable for our program.

 

[Mike80]

Let Penn State folk decide.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

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They are nothing if not consistent

JoeDidntKnow is building up an impressive body of work over there. I expect great things from him.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Penn State folks can be the intended audience all you want but when outsiders see things like "the rail" and other weakness along the ring of pretty good years we are going to laugh at it.

Similar to other schools trying to distort the reality of their "tradition" by claiming a bunch of NC's from days long gone.

"The rail" is an amazing bit of "spoke too soon" delusion, for which the PSU fanbase is well known, captured for posterity. Claiming that game was some kind of watershed moment in which PSU began it's "reign" over the B1G is so far from the reality one can't help but laugh.

The immediate two years following that game OSU went 2-0 vs PSU, and played in back to back NC games while Penn State was playing in the Outback and Alamo following 4 loss seasons.

A new rule?

Role. I think the word they were looking for was, "a new role."

 

[Best Buckeye]

Role. I think the word they were looking for was, "a new role."

is that cream filled?

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Let Penn State folk decide.

Fine, you guys decide.

Do you want to celebrate B1G-level excellence - conference championships, New Year's Six bowl games, top-5 finishes, national titles?

Or do you want to engage in MAC-level shenanigans - The Rail, whiteouts, the lion's roar, the Big Uglies, Cardboard Joe.

What's next? Jangling keys? Cowbells? Jump Around?

You decide.

 

[409fold]

What's next? Jangling keys? Cowbells? Jump Around?

You decide.

OK, we have decided. We had a "cult meeting" this afternoon and we took a vote.

Now, the decision won't become public for a couple days, but because I like you guys :cheers:, I've decided to let you guys know before everyone else.

(DRUM-ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL)

All-green uniforms for our home game against Illinois.

It was a close vote. All-green jerseys beat out all-yellow jerseys. The vote was 345,736-342,954 with 17,943 abstentions. Oh yeah, and 40,909 people who voted that we came out dressed like Joe Paterno.

Anyway, the important thing: whichever color it was, it couldn't be one of our school's colors.

 

[jwinslow]

What is wrong with PSU "memorializing" the 2005 Ohio State game? It was a "relative turning point" in terms of PSU football history. Look at these adjacent 5-year eras:

In the 2000-2004 era, PSU had 4 losing seasons out of 5. The one winning season, PSU still lost 4 times and finished ranked #16.

In the 2005-2009 era, PSU won 2 B1G championships and finished in the Top 10 3 times.

There's a pretty big difference between those 2 adjacent 5-year eras, and the "turning point" between those 2 eras was the OSU game, a hard-fought upset victory (and it was an upset, the upstream poster was incorrect in saying that Penn State was favored) in a pretty electric environment against one of college football's powerhouses. OF COURSE that game is going to be remembered and memorialized!

A question for you: as an Ohio State fan do you have good memories of Jim Tressel's guarantee back in January 2001? That was a "relative turning point" too: OSU had a horrible record against U-M in the 1990s, of course, but Tressel makes the guarantee and things have been completely different vs. your big rival ever since.

They were hyperbolizing not memorializing.

New rule? What rule was that? The two co championships book ending two consecutive title berths for osu?

This from a fanbase who promised how much they would dominate before they arrived, announced their stranglehold on the throne upon arrival, then blamed jealousy and wild conspiracies as the only reasons it didn't last.

So when that same kind of unjustified, elitist rhetoric surfaces again, and proved to be quite premature and false, they are going to catch an equally brash amount of blowback.

It's not even a little bit complicated why osu fans would take issue and mock that premature trash talk

 

[Zurp]

They were hyperbolizing not memorializing.

New rule? What rule was that? The two co championships book ending two consecutive title berths for osu?

This from a fanbase who promised how much they would dominate before they arrived, announced their stranglehold on the throne upon arrival, then blamed jealousy and wild conspiracies as the only reasons it didn't last.

So when that same kind of unjustified, elitist rhetoric surfaces again, and proved to be quite premature and false, they are going to catch an equally brash amount of blowback.

It's not even a little bit complicated why osu fans would take issue and mock that premature trash talk

That's a really good point. It's like they're implying that they "stole" the "reigning Big Ten awesome guys" status from Ohio State. But that was 2005. Who was Ohio State up to and including that year? Ohio State won the Big Ten and the National Championship 3 years before, but nothing since. They way they finished 2004 got us fans really excited about 2005, but the fact that Ohio State already lost to Texas in 2005 made most of us forget about a national championship. But Michigan was still the "reigning Big Ten awesome guys" in 2005. They won the Big Ten in 2003 and 2004 (probably tied in 2004). They may have won in 2001, too - I forget that year, and they weren't any real schlubs in 2002, either. So Penn State "comes back" and beats a team in a game that everyone agrees will be close. (I've read on this site the past couple days that it was either 4 points in favor of Penn State or 4 points in favor of Ohio State. Either way, it's supposed to be a close game.) But they didn't really beat anyone, yet. Michigan should have been that team that they needed to "steal" that "new rule" from. And they failed to do that, opening the door to share the Big Ten title with Ohio State. Ohio State went on to win the next 2 Big Ten championships outright, before Penn State beat Ohio State in 2008. THAT game should have appeared to be more of a "rise of a new rule" than the 2005 game. Of course, there's no rail to commemorate that game. Of course, Penn State failed to beat Iowa that year, and they had to share the championship with Ohio State, again.

If anything, 2005 should have been their attempt to STOP the rise of a new rule. They won the battle, but lost the war.