Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[ORD_Buckeye]

The great joestown schism of 2012.

Can we get Muck to dip into his personal arsenal and start arming both sides?

 

[Taosman]

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=157&f=1395&t=9206327

You poor fools...

They have forgotten that they are members of a private club.(NCAA) And if you violate the rules you can get expelled. Or a "death penality" extended by a few more years.
And the idea that Ped State could get any favorable outcome in these times from any Federal court is nuts. It could actually get a lot worse. Like Congress telling the DOE to de-fund Ped State. That could happen anyway.

 

[NFBuck]

Can we get Muck to dip into his personal arsenal and start arming both sides?

I think this is what the mayans foresaw.

 

[sepia5]

Can we get Muck to dip into his personal arsenal and start arming both sides?

Muck's a Swede now. Total pacifist.

 

[Buckeye513]

Muck's a Swede now. Total pacifist.

With a sex shed in the woods.

 

[OHSportsFan]

These clowns have barely been on double secret probation for two weeks, and they went out and threw a toga party.

Wormer is most definitely going to drop the big one.

Hey ORD,

Longtime listener and big fan here! I gotta say I love your enthusiasm in this matter, but I have to ask, what makes you so sure this will be the case?

Thanks!

 

[ucfknight]

"The Penn State sanctions are not subject to appeal," Williams said last week.

Game Over.

 

[ucfknight]

Please please let this happen:

-NCAA grants appeal

-BOT has no grounds to take this to court since appeal was granted

-Emmert personally shows up in Happy Valley (think POTUS flying into Middle East warzone middle of the night, not announced until he has left type visit)

-He hands the BOT a four year death penalty sanction and says 'If this isn't approved by majority vote and accepted, than EVERYTHING is on the table as far as punishment after the NCAA, Dept. of Ed, FBI, IRS, DEA, CIA, B1G, Happy Valley Library Overdue Books Enforcement, etc complete their investigations.


Like a Boss

You can bet Emmert is on the phone with the Board of Education now. he'll add the Clery Act violations to findings and then give them death penalty.

 

[DA-Bucks]

If anyone doubted "lack of institutional control" at PSU before today, I think this lawsuit is THE perfect example. Nobody is truly in charge over there and the place is going to implode in one way or another.

 

[4skers89]

As we all know the new board members believe that the PSU acting president acted beyond his authority when entering into the consent decree with the NCAA. Assuming the new board members who are upset with the sanctions receive proper authority to challenge the NCAA, the beauty of the first argument in support of overturning the sanctions is the PSU acting president misrepresented his authority to the NCAA while acting on behalf of the member school during a NCAA compliance investigation. That argument will certainly amuse the NCAA leadership.

This got me thinking. It is unethical for one authority of an institution to sign the consent decree and another to dispute it. Also could be interpreted as LOIC. I was going to research NCAA rules to see what they violated and then I remembered Emmerts letter of inquiry from November. I'm sure there is something in here or references that makes PSU a repeat offender either due to the appeal or filing a lawsuit. I predict NCAA bringing out a Sledge Hammer within a week of one of these events. Emmert should send another letter inquiring as to the meaning of the appeal by a BOT member and talk of a lawsuit. Let them know that it is not behavior that indicates they are complying with the sanctions and/or are violating NCAA rules and that additional sanctions will be considered.

As you undoubtedly are aware, the NCAA Constitution contains principles regarding institutional control and responsibility, as well as ethical conduct. Specifically, under Article 2.1, "it is the responsibility of each member institution to control its intercollegiate athletics program in compliance with the rules and regulations of the Association. The institutions president or chancellor is responsible for the administration of all aspects of the athletics program...." Further, that "includes responsibility for the actions of its staff members and for the actions of any other individual or organization engaged in activities promoting the athletics interests of the institution." These principles of institutional control are further elaborated on in Articles 6.01.1 and 6.4 of the Constitution, and universities are often held accountable in our infractions process for failure to meet them. Under Article 2.4, the NCAA Constitution requires that "for intercollegiaate athletics to promote the character development of participants, to enhance the integrity of higher education and to promote civility in society, student-athletes, coaches, and all others associated with these athletics programs and events should adhere to such fundamental values as respect, fairness, civility, honesty and responsibility. These values should be manifest not only in athletics participation, but also in the broad spectrum of activities affecting the athletics program." These principles are bedrock to the foundation of intercollegiate athletics; and the memership of the Association has made clear through the enactment of relevant bylaws that they are expected to be respected and followed.

 

[ucfknight]

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/08/06/2250857/penn-state-trustees-appeal-excessive.html

Williams already, today, faced with the news of the the latest appeal, said that psu sanctions were unappealable. So basically he's pissed and if he's pissed, imagine Emmert,

 

[NFBuck]

 

[scarletmike]

This is why the I.R.S. doesn't penalize murderers who pay their taxes.

Cults, man.


These idiots are really taking it to a whole other level.

 

[buckeyebri]

Those people are just crazy.

The NCAA is a membership institution; a club.

Penn State, one member of the club, has accepted a report that suggests a systematic failure (from the president down to the lowly, little, insignificant head football coach) where high ranking folks were aware of a potentially felonious situation that occurred in the football facilities. They also knew that there was an eye-witness to said situation. They did nothing with this information other than talk to each other about it. The conclusion of those who researched the situation said that the failure was due the "culture" and the brand that is Penn State Football. These conclusions were accepted by Penn State.

The NCAA asked Penn State straight up if they chose to accept the report as it is, and submit it in lieu of actual investigation by the NCAA. Penn State said yes.

Due to Penn State's acceptance of the sequence of events, at least 18 other members of that club that is the NCAA have said that Penn State should be banned from football activities for more than one year due to the "culture".

Emmert asks for, and receives from other members of the club, permission to skip the "due process" since Penn State wanted the NCAA to accept the findings in the Freeh Report in lieu of an actual investigation. He then administers punishment that would help the "culture" de-emphasize football, but still allow them to field a team. He decided to be nice and not kill the program even though other members asked for it.

Now a couple of idiots on their BOT who feel one man (who is obviously is so much greater than the university itself in their eyes) are trying to file a federal lawsuit that should be quickly thrown out of any court in this land.

Again, these people are crazy.

I've said it before and I will say it again, there is some sort of inbred mental illness going on over there.....

 

[buckiprof]

Got to hand it to RoBOT (short for rogue board of trustees...pairs well with zombie icon I think). They are doing their best to redefine my Platonic ideal of bat shit crazy.